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When Parsons Isn't Hitting His 3's We are Average

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

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    I am not ignoring it at all. I just think it is impossible to quantify what it means. There are games he shot lights out and we loss and there are games he stunk and we won. Yet would anyone ever say when Parsons shoots bad it helps us win. My real point is his consistency. Knocking down 6 out of 7 threes doesn't mean anything if we lose but would anyone suggest he shot for a lower percentage so we can win. I can't decipher the stats but when I watch the games I do not feel confident with his shot. Even when he was hot I still didn't like his form and wondered how long he could keep it up and then he went crazy hot and I was excited about his possibilities..

    Perhaps his shooting is irrelevant I will concede that as a slim possibility but I watch the games and feel he's inconsistency hurts the team. His shooting goes from great to disastrous and I do not why or how he can overcome that. Maybe you do.
     
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    The guy who's shooting matters most is obviously Harden. He uses the most possessions, as he should.
    Very good of you to look this up. Parsons is the Chosen One on Clutchfans despite being easily replaceable.
     
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    And somehow he can predict the future? One where he passes up a wide open 3 to take a worse shot, statistically.
    If a guy is a 35% 3 point shooter he is going to miss a bunch in a row many, many times over the course of the season. It's inevitable. Doesn't mean we hit the panic button and tell him to shoot mid range jumpers. Just cause he's missing doesn't mean he's doing anything different (that he can notice) from when he makes them.
     
  4. RedDragon01

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    Yeah, you're right that those stats don't say anything about his consistency without regard to wins and losses (on a game to game basis).

    That said, even though I can understand where you're coming from, as there have been games in which he's terribly cold from the 3 and others in which he's sizzling hot, I don't feel as though he's any more inconsistent than anyone else on the team, except maybe PBev (who at 40% goes through what seems like few stretches of missed shots). But that's just a gut feeling from watching the games.

    That's the problem with the eye test without backing a conclusion up with stats. Two different people can come to two different conclusions with the eye test. But we don't really know which is right until we consider more objective evidence.

    I'm sorry for misinterpreting your OP. I was wrong. The post I responded to doesn't render your first post inert. ;) But it would be nice to see the conclusion drawn backed up with some objective evidence. I still haven't made up my mind on the issue.
     
  5. megastahr

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    we should trade dmo or trob for Ersan Ilyasova ...seriously. He would be great at the 4 plus he is big and plays solid d

    Lin
    Harden
    Parsons
    Ersan Ilyasova
    Asik

    with this team would actually be incredibly interesting. Save the rest of the money for a trade for a star that could come available like maybe granger or love.

    Possibly sign jj redick in offseason. Id enjoy that team...and i think they would be a better version of the nuggets.
     
  6. DVauthrin

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    Chandler Parsons is a better all around player than Webster. Webster is a better three point shooter, that's it. And did you completely miss the part of my post where I said the only way Morey should trade Parsons is to get the second superstar to pair with Harden?

    Oh and I'm not trading Parsons for Ryan Anderson. All that does is exchange one hole for another. For Love or Aldridge, of course I would, if necessary.
     
  7. CDrex

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    Okay, so even though you claimed specifically that the team SUFFERS when Parsons is shooting poorly and then saw that he's our best shooter in losses and called it "impossible to interpret", fine. Disregard the team performance and let's talk about how streaky Parsons is.

    Here is the standard deviation and variance of the three pointers made and the three point percentage from the game logs of Parsons, Delfino and Harden all season. For reference, I threw in the game's best pure spot-up shooter, Kyle Korver. Standard deviation on the left set, variance on the right. Higher value = streakier.

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    Turns out that...he's maybe just a little streaky compared to the best spot-up shooter in the league. And maybe similar in streakiness to other typical three point shooters on his team.

    I mean...if you want to base a whole argument on a mild, slightly above average streakiness go for it, but the general feeling of distrust in his jumper you have doesn't seem very statistically warranted given all the other positives he brings.
     
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    Parsons deserves equal blame for poor offense of late
     
  9. otisthorpe3

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    Law of averages, Parsons is regressing back to mean
     

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