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When Juwan leads us in scoring..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. krosfyah

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    Uh, we lost.

    Doesn't that contradict your argument that we are better off without him?
     
  2. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Juwan not playing and Juwan not being with the Rockets organization are two different things.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    rivaldy,
    i see things.
     
  4. Rivaldo2181

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    Tinlady, quit smoking that crack and you'll stop seeing things!
     
  5. shawn786

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    Tinman will your scuffels w/ other BBS member ever end?

    Whats next? Tinman Vs. The World? :(

    [​IMG] VS. [​IMG]
     
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  6. Zboy

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    Juwan Howard is a curse. If he is getting major minutes on a team, that team will not go anywhere. His long NBA history will prove that.

    The curse isnt even some magical divine black magic or something. Its because of who/what he is on the basketball.

    He plays the power forward position yet almost eveyrthing he does on the court contradicts it. Lets take a a look...

    -He is a poor man to man defender.
    -He is a terrible help defender (take a look at his Blocked shot numbers to get a good laugh)
    -He is a poor rebounder.
    -Power Forward poistion is supposed to be an enforcer type. They support the center in rebounding and help the guards against penetration by guarding the lane. He is far from anything of that sort.
    -He is slow footed. He is verry verrrry slow footed.
    -He is the antonym of athletic.
    -He blows waaaaay too many layups. When he gets close to the basket its an adventure. He will either get blocked or out of fear of getting blocked, he will throw up garbage.
    -His post moves are garbage.
    -He EXPOSES Yao. Yao has picked up a number of fouls because Juwan just let the man he was supposed to guard waltz in the lane.
    -He strikes fear to no one. He is a softy who on occassion pretends to be tough.


    What he does bring to the table is a decent 20 footer when he is left WIDE OPEN. Is this all we want out of our PF spot?!?! He is basically playing as a SG at PF spot without the mobility or ballhandling of a guard! What a handicap!

    As long as Juwan Howard is expected to make contributions to this team, this team is going nowhere.

    This is how pathetic Juwan is. On a night when Denver put the scrubs out and deliberately threw away the game, Juwan SEIZED the opportunity to be a hero! He is so friggin starved of any glorious moments in his long NBA career, that he started to celebrate by scoring over the ultimate scrubs. How disgraceful!!!
     
  7. tinman

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    the universe!
    great men challenge conventional thinking.

    sort of like MORTAL KOMBAT!
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  8. tinman

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    Rivaldy,
    i see things beyond the normal casual fan.
    when you see a double team, i see an opportunity to dream shake.
     
  9. Rivaldo2181

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    No what you really see is an opportunity to get attention. Your childish rationals make no sense and I am done giving you the attention you crave. Peace out.
     
  10. tmacyao111

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    But remember he is a proffesional. :rolleyes:








    Im getting tired of hearing that comment from jvg, bill, and clyde.
     
  11. tinman

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    rivaldy,

    you sound like Khan out of Star Trek II.

    I'm trying to show the universal truths of NBA basketball and my experience and insight are expressed in this forum to galvinize the masses and provoke change in their thoughts and ultimately their souls.

    you may not understand why all these incidents with juwan that lead to the demise of the Rockets. its hard to understand, thats why im understanding it for you.

    i look at the history of juwan and history shows that juwan takes teams to the lottery. post juwan teams are youthful and competitive.

    you can deviate from the topic, oh this happened and this happened also, but the result was as predicted and was consistent with history.

    eventually you will grab the peeble out of my hand grasshopper. eventually.
     
  12. tinman

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    I forgot to mention, yesterday on NBA Full Court Press on Sirius radio.
    Kenny Smith got a call from a Rockets fan and asked Kenny what was wrong with the Rockets. Kenny said the Rockets dont know what style they are playing. Also, he mentioned that he look at the box score and saw that Juwan had 31 and said 'now that's funny!'
     
  13. DJ Naztorious

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    A solution for all of you :: trade Juwan for Danny Fortson.

    We get an aggressive, hungry rebounder with an expiring contract after next year, and get out from under Juwan's lengthy contract.

    Seattle gets rid of someone who is fed up with them, get back a dependable, PROFESSIONAL player who not only plays the same position, but won't be leaving for greener pastures anytime soon.

    And their contracts are ridiculously close :: Fortson makes $6.6 Mill next year, the last on his contract, and Juwanna Man makes $6.39 mill next year.

    WHAT WHAT.
     
  14. DJ Naztorious

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    sorry - i forgot to post the link - http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/267532_sonx21.html

    Friday, April 21, 2006

    Fortson 'would love' to be traded

    By GARY WASHBURN
    P-I REPORTER

    To everyone's amazement in the Sonics' organization, Danny Fortson sat silent behind the team's bench for the final three months of the season, uttering not a word on his uncertain future.

    The opinionated and sometimes volatile forward played good soldier during Bob Hill's tenure as he missed the final 46 games of the season because of cartilage damage in his left knee. Fortson left the Furtado Center on Thursday after cleaning out his locker and completing his exit interview, hoping these were his final days in Seattle.

    Fortson officially wants out, hoping for a fresh start with a playoff-caliber team as he tries to revive his career.

    "Yes. I would love to get a trade, definitely," he said as the players headed to their offseason locales. "It would be the best for both parties. They know my history and they know if I come back up here and don't play a certain amount, then it's not going to work out for anybody involved. If you want to say a public plea, then that's what you can call it."

    Fortson played 23 games this season, averaging 3.8 points and 3.4 rebounds in 12 minutes. He was ineffective during the first two months of the season and was told by Hill, who was named coach Jan. 3, that he would play about 10 minutes per game.

    After committing two fouls in 23 seconds in a Jan. 15 loss to Miami, Fortson told club officials his knee was too painful to play. Management questioned his desire and he received three opinions on the injury before shutting it down.

    Fortson could be a valuable trade chip, especially for teams looking to clear salary cap space for the 2007 free-agent class. He will make $6.6 million next season in the final year of his contract.

    "Hopefully I'll go somewhere where I can play and be a factor and not somebody sitting on the bench like they want me to do here," he said. "It's a piece of meat as far as an expiring contract is concerned in this league. I don't mind it in this situation to get moved."

    Although Fortson said he enjoyed serving as a mentor to centers Johan Petro and Robert Swift, he sees no future with the Sonics given their depth at power forward with Chris Wilcox and Nick Collison.

    "Nothing against those guys, I'd much rather compete against them than to sit behind them," he said. "That's not going to work out. I think Bob Hill knows that. I think (general manager) Rick Sund knows that, and if you see me back here next year, just know they know what they're getting themselves into."
     
  15. Ra Ooh La La

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    Ah, skeet skeet, skeet skeet. I think we've gotta be aggressive with your proposal, DJ Naz.

    No, I'm not a big fan of Fortson at all. I pretty much hate the guy especially with his fem hairstyle. But an opportunity to rid ourselves of JHo's joke of a contract is simply too good to pass up. We could finally free Hayes from the bench and either stand firmly behind Stro or move him along for another direction (picks, quality swingmen).

    Of course, once again, if we wind up with a top 3 pick because of Juwan's 31 point out-of-body experience against the Nugs, we should probably keep the good luck charm.
     
  16. tinman

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    we need to find a hidden gem like Boris Diaw.
     
  17. Rocket_Boy_34

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    Jho is not a curse, and not a bad player to have. The reason he goes to teams and they aren't that great, is that he's not good enough to be a starter on a good team. If he's starting for a team, you know that team must be so weak that he's their best option. He's not a curse, he's just not a great option as a starter, or even a good one.
     
  18. Matchman

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    there are no such thing as a curse in sports....
    curse are meant to be broken
    Look at the Red Sox and Abdul-Rahim

    the only thing i saw from Juwan is him playing with heart night in n' night out
     

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