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When is somebody going to teach Terrence Jones how to shoot?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by oakdogg, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. vator

    vator Contributing Member

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    He certainly contributed, but not shooting jump shots wasn't the problem. I honesty felt like Howard missing all of those crucial free throws in game 1 that let Portland back in the game when it appeared to be well in hand and Harden falling in love with his shot and going 8-28 and 3-14 from three were huge.
     
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    A) he flicks his left wrist
    B) he doesn't have a full follow through with his right arm/hand
    C) The ultra high release point is good for mid range shooting, but bad for 3 point shooting
     
  3. JCDenton

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    X3 ban this troll.
     
  4. alethios

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    Jones has excellent offensive skills but I don't see him playing being assertive on offense. He can get points in a variety of ways, but seems too tentative. Where he shines though is around the basket. A lot of his points were on put-backs or tip-ins. Plus he's an above average rebounder since returning from injury (Dwight effect?)
     
  5. mfastx

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    Yea he played very timid tonight, looked lost with that 2nd unit.

    He needs to shoot with confidence, he can make them.
     
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    Doesn't happen often enough and won't happen often enough in the playoffs. They will fade and dare him to shoot it over and over.

    ?

    Smith is shooting around 43% from 10-16 feet as a Rocket.
    Donuts is shooting around 34% from 10-16 feet this year.
    Terrence is shooting around 10% from 10-16 feet this season.

    So, you tell me....you prefer to see Terrence throw up a 14-16 footer over the other two?

    1. We eschew the mid-range jumper.

    2. You want to draw conclusions about shooting prowess based on one game?




    This is nuts. Why am I wasting time pointing out the faulty logic?
     
  7. heypartner

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    Do you honestly believe the game works this way? You've said this like a bizzilion times, yet the game doesn't work this way. You fade away from PFs at 15-20 ft who can dribble, that PF will just drive right at you and start their low post game from the new position you just gave them. DMo would do the very same thing.

    We aren't talking about defenses stepping back from Rubio at the 3pt line.

    The amount of times Jones and Dmo have the ball at 15-20ft looking to make a play is insignificant. DMo has 9 FGAs from 15-19', and 40 total from 10-19'...out of over 700 FGAs total.

    Jones as 16 total shots from 10-19'. So, it's insignificant what you are saying. If the opps are trying to get him to shoot from there, they are failing. Likely because they are not doing what you are saying or when they do, Jones just dribbles closer, like a big man with his handles should.



    This is nuts. Why am I wasting time pointing out your faulty logic?
     
  8. Liberon

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    There's no really true form to shooting as long as you can make it consistently.
     
  9. alethios

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    No one will argue with you there. Which makes the whole mid-range jump shot argument a moot point.
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    It seems to me that the next youthful hurdle both of our much improved big men need to overcome is the over-valuation of the starting nod. Jones came back from injury quiet, got moved into the starting lineup and began averaging a double double. Move him back out tonight and he seems to back off a little, like he's playing a supporting role. The same thing happened when D-Mo went to the bench.

    The knock on each of these guys last year was inconsistency. Neither seemed able to string three good games together. Now they're both more than capable of that. One of them is going to have to learn how to contribute the same way off the bench as he does as a starter. I don't much care which one it is.
     
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    What you are leaving out is that defender is jamming up the pick and roll action with Harden and Dwight.

    Can Terrence drive down into a post up? Sure. Right into the convoluted paint area where 2 other defenders are already waiting and both opponent bigs outweight him by 20+ and out length him by 3-6 inches.

    If you think Terrence driving into multiple defenders in the paint area in the playoffs is going to be successful.............ain't no sense in me trying to change your mind. Watch.what.happens.

    Yeah, he doesn't take the shots he's given. He either goes around the horn to a double covered harden. Or he drives into the paint and takes bad shots. Look at his numbers against Portland. They split in half. And his finishing percentage went down. And then we're left with the shot clock running down with Harden trying to make something happen with multiple defenders on him like flies on a turd.

    The ONLY way Terrence is an offensive benefit in the playoffs is if we can turn over the opponent and get runouts. Now you've got something with his handling ability. But in half-court.....his handle is useless. It just chews up shot clock. The Playoffs are a different animal. The defenses are better. They're smarter. And they're playing 7 games, not one game and then get on the plane to go play somebody else. It's 7 games. The opponents knows the team's weaknesses. Just like last season, Terrence is going to wind up with the ball up top and around the arc and he'll hesitate and shot fake in hopes of bringing the defender to him so he can then make a play with the dribble. But that won't happen unless the defense makes a mistake and forgets their strategy.

    The strategy of our playoff opponent's defense is to swarm James make him get rid of the ball. If James throws it to Ariza they will run at Ariza and force Ariza to pass it or put it on the deck. They know if they get Ariza to dribble the basketball that their defensive efficiency goes up. Then what they want to happen is for Ariza or somebody to be forced to throw it out top to Terrence. And they'll live with the results of those possessions where the ball is in Terrence's hands in half-court.

    On the other hand, our opponents are already strategizing on how to not let DMo get the ball without cover when he's outside and if he gets it in the paint their perimeter defenders are going to be cheating in to slap at the ball as he is posting up. They'd rather get him to get rid of the ball....to Terrence. They're already doing that in the regular season. It'll be 10 times worse in the playoffs.
     

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