I think Artest is still a good player with a lot of heart but rather obsessed with his attempts (poor shots selection and drive) but then that is why the coach is there .. to coach .. to remind, to tell, and to guide him. He would be fine as a bench player and would be useful in certain situation. I would resigned him if the price is right.
Count on Ron Artest to become a whole different animal in the playoffs. You think he's crazy now?! Wait till Saturday.
Unfortunately, Kobe Bryant could do this. Phil Jackson dealt with Dennis Rodman, so who's to say he couldn't do it with Artest? I think Phil Jackson may have another dynasty within his grasp. Exactly. I think he could do this team well, if he takes a paycut and is not the major go-to-guy on this team. Kevin Martin has played with him before, maybe he would be the guy we would want on our team. We are sorely in need of a fiery competitor who can lead our team and be a reliable scoring threat. Yao needs to be a second fiddle. He is not capable of completely leading the team. The main reason the Mavs were able to get away with fronting Yao was because we didn't have someone that could truly make them pay. I really wish we could get a player like Michael Redd who would make them pay from the outside, but then we would still be missing a leader. Are they any players out there that are on a poor team that would like to be on a winning team? I honestly believe that we are okay at all positions. We are just missing the intangibles.
I rather have the Artest from 06-07 & 07-08, back then he used his strengths and stepped up against competition. Against the Rockets he always performed very well and attacked the basket fearlessly. Somehow he had succes in the past with his dribbling skills, finishing at the basket and going 1-on-1. I wouldn't mind Artest going crazy like he did @ Jazz last year, at least he didn't take **** back then. Right now he has become a p***y because of his contract year which was obviously not the right time to acquire him. Vernon Maxwell was like Ron Artest an emotional player and played at his best against the best opponents, especially when the refs were letting players get away with ****. Playing on the edge was the only way to play for Max, which was his strength and the same goes for Artest but he doesn't do that anymore. Right now he's just a dumb player, trying to take over games because in his minds he's the man. However, he's not really emotionally involved and not playing on the edge like he should. This might sound crazy but it's true. However, that kind of personality cannot work in an environment where he is not held responsible and held accountable. Just look at the games where Maxwell flipped out; Olajuwon, Thorpe, Horry, Sam, Herrera and even Rudy T and "Mr. Mean" would try to hold him back and really talk to him. Nobody does that right now, they're all probably scared of Artest even though he has never gone over the edge. Like DD said, Artest does not fit with this team so he probably will have to go. Also to clear up something, there is a big difference between Ron Artest taking things upon himself like he did against the Jazz last year and the way he plays. Right now, he's not taking things in his own hands when refs do not call it the right way and he is not playing like he should. He's in between things, getting a little emotional but not over the edge and trying to take over without really being so involved he has no conscience and just keeps shooting. He's simply throwing up bad shots like it's a joke to him. It's hard to explain but I hope people know what I mean.
He almost started another brawl last night, and Kidd got to his head and there goes the games and the elbows by Ron, he just can't get right, dont re sign him spend that $ on role players and signing Wafer
LOL, you think that was starting a brawl ? That was far from it, he didn't even come close to going NO LAYUPS on em which was exactly what we needed last night instead of those dumb shots. Funny how when we signed him everyone started threads with NO LAYUPS, screaming it, loving it, showing the video 'Still Crazy', comparing him to Maxwell and when he even goes a little bit crazy people want him gone. ****, I would've loved to see the Artest screaming NO LAYUPS this year !! Unfortunately, we will probably not see that Artest because he will probably not be resigned.
Goodness . . . Folx HATE at the drop of a dime Rocket River when we in the WCF . . . folx will love him again
Why do people call it hate when you are simply criticizing? I don't hate Ron, just don't like him as a basketball player on my favorite team. Seems strange.....haters...apologists.....just points in an argument I guess. DD
from blazersedge: [rquoter]Ron Artest takes bad shots outside the flow of the offense. Those who complain when Travis takes tough shots should take a good look at Artest. He's truly a flow-killer. He tries to carry the team but lacks the offensive skills to do so successfully. He's streaky, but is more often cold than hot. Mark my words, when this series is over Blazers fans will be thanking Artest for his poor shot selection.[/rquoter]
Rick is scared to tell artest what to do. he does what he wants...when he wants...and don't nobody say **** to him about it. it's all good for adelman when artest does the right thing....he is his boy then. but when ron ron does the wrong thing. RA just shuts his mouth and looks the other way
exactly. it's always between haters and xOFs. Artest as someone pointed out is probably best utilized along someone like Kobe or unde coach like Pop. "don't argue with it, reason with it" from South Park comes to mind
Maxwell wouldn't have been on the playoff roster, so moot point. He would've given up on the team and lied to them after we got Artest or TMac... like he did when we got Drexler. Carry on...
Watching him play reminds me of when Barkley was here. Everyone would moan and groan about him backing his defender in for 23.5 seconds before jacking up a shot but all was forgotten when he grabbed 15 or 16 rebounds LOL......Like it's been said you have to take the good with the bad......I still would hate for the Rockets to resign him though
Calm down DaDaKoKoTaTa relax breathe out. . .. it will be ok Ron will be ok Yao will be ok The Rockets will be ok . . . See ya at the WCF Rocket River Breathe folx. . breathe
maybe the reason why artest liked adelman as a coach so much because adelman doesn't reign him in. because there are times when it is clear that artest is cold but insistent on isolation, dribble, dribble - adelman should have pulled him out during the regular season to teach him a lesson. now it's not a good idea to experiment with this in the playoffs.
Our own Vernon Maxwell and Sammy come to mind. In their primes, they would tell you they were the best players on the planet...Regardless. Just like Ron. And DD, Does defense play into your efficiency rantings? Apparently not...
Of course defense is part of it, and Ron is a good defender.....but we already have an elite defender at the wing position who is not an efficient scorer, now we have two with Artest and Battier. So, I would rather have ONE elite defender and pair them with an efficient scorer, and since Battier plays within the system and is probably our smartest player, I choose him. DD
