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When is enough, enough with Artest ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets Jones, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. Alvin Choo

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    We need Tmac back. Ron is deferring to Tmac and all he do is spot up shooting. At least there is a player to take the ball away from artest hands.
     
  2. Hippieloser

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    Oh Jesus Christ. Now our only hope is Tracy McGrady? ****ing kill me.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Jettison them both, and get players who play hard, and know their roles, and play within the system.

    DD
     
  4. TMac4Life#1

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    Yeah they do have bird rights but once free agent period starts we lose all those rights because he is free to talk to anyone he chooses 2. If we do a sign and trade who can we possibly get?? I rather see whats out there before the sign and trade is brought up. Money comes off the books with his contract and Wafer's we can use that money to get a point guard. I finally see us getting a back up center since Deke is gone after the playoffs :( :(
     
  5. t_mac1

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    if tmac comes back healthy or regain his 07-08 form (and if he plays well, there won't be much drama), you gotta let artest go and try to get a guy like mike miller or another legit shooter who can create his own shot.

    artest is just TERRIBLE. his strength is IN THE DAMN POST. that's the ONLY WAY he can score consistently and yet he rarely goes in there, even when yao isn't in the game. seeing him dribble the ball is like someone punching me in the face everytime he dribbles.

    or trade tmac and artest for another legit scorer.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    The Rockets are over the cap, so any Money that comes off the books can not be redistributed to other players like Wafer, the only way you get value for Artest is to do a S&T with him for other players and draft picks.

    Letting him walk would mean they should have traded him at the trade deadline to get something for him......it would have been a complete waste of 2 first round draft picks to do that.

    DD
     
  7. TMac4Life#1

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    Boy I would love to see how your team would look like if you had control :D :D.

    Yao
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    Maggette
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    Bibby/ Calderon

    and thats not even the bench. I would love to see your NBA team if you have in mind the players that would be good for this team.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Me too.....it would be a blast.....BTW, Maggette would be DESTROYING teams when they front Yao....by attacking the basket.

    But.....I am sure you know that...right?

    DD
     
  9. Im Just Sayin

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    I think they need to have a definitive decision on what they are gonna do with McGrady before they decide on Artest

    Personally I felt he should have been traded at the deadline for a guard

    But I would still rather have some compensation for him if he is not resigned (maybe a sign and trade if his number is too high)
     
  10. TMac4Life#1

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    I also know that he doesn't pass the ball. You get upset at Artest for what he does but Corey Maggette is the same way except that he does it constantly. Maggette is like a Von Wafer. Once they have their mind on attacking the basket they don't look to pass the ball. I think the only difference is that Maggette is a veteran and would get the call unlike Wafer.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    I actually do not mind players who don't pass that much...if....IF...they are closers or finishers.

    That means they shoot a high percentage. Von is turning into one, but Maggette is already one.

    Ron is not.

    There is nothing wrong with shooting if you are good at it...at least Maggette knows his role.

    :D

    DD
     
  12. TMac4Life#1

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    also i want to add that all you need is a good pg. I know he is washed up and done but Steve Francis would have been a good example. He attacks the basket and makes something happen. I think Lowry can solve that issue about the frontin situation.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I agree about the PG...someone to take the ball away from Ron.....and manage the team.

    AB is worthless if he is not attacking the basket, same for Lowry....there are so many lanes open because Yao is fronted...we need someone to take advantage at the point.

    DD
     
  14. Im Just Sayin

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    Maggette is just as much of a black hole player that Artest is. Just a more efficient one.

    We could do better than Maggette
     
  15. DaDakota

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    I think the point is that we could do better than Artest.......and there is NOTHING wrong with efficiency, what do you have against that?

    Maybe because you are a Rocket's fan you just haven't seen it ...for.....about a decade....lol

    DD
     
  16. TMac4Life#1

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    Aaron Brooks is basically a rookie all over again. He is learning the position. He is basically Allen Iverson to us. You can't ask a scorer to be a playmaker. He is a scorer and has the mentality to score first. I think Marc Jackson was right when he said he thinks Lowry should start since he is more of a point guard and have Aaron Brooks come off the bench.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    I think the Rockets are hoping that Brooks develops into Tony Parker lite....

    Either way, another topic for another thread.

    Just jettison Artest, he is not worth a new contract, and is a liability as a teamate.

    DD
     
  18. Shaud

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    Ron is very frustrating to watch at times. I would want him back for the right price. I don't think he will get a huge contract just for the fact that teams are positioning themselves for the 2010 class.

    My problem is when Rafer was here his beef was Ron not running the plays called.

    If you listen to Yao he keeps hinting that the plays are not being ran. Also said no ball movement.

    All of this points to Ron. We never heard all of this grumbling before this year.
     
  19. Im Just Sayin

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    Oh I know about McGrady's inefficient play along with Artest's lol

    I just think the next off gurad we do acquire has to be more efficient and be able to play within the coach's system, which both of them seemed to have a difficult time doing
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I think the team would be smart and sit down with Yao after the season and ask him what he thinks.

    This team can win a championship with Yao, but it takes efficient players who know their roles surrounding him.

    Ron Artest is neither efficient nor does he know his role.

    DD
     

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