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When does Carmelo Anthony get moved? CBSSports believes Rockets are best option.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Cisko, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. albuster

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    I had been having that uneasy feeling myself ever since this Melo thing came up. I could not just have expressed it better in words. Thanks Jeff.
     
  2. Z-Ro&Trae

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    i hope we can still keep j hill, but i know that our chances of getting mello would prolly be greater if we got ride of jardan hill and/or chase budinger.
     
  3. Z-Ro&Trae

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    Sucks that i can't edit my last post. :(
     
  4. HorneR

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    And you're entitled to that opinion, but I disagree. In today's league, where max contract's are being thrown around to whoever wants one, Melo certainly deserves what he's being paid. Sure, his efficiency is questionable, but he's a bonafide scorer. One of the best the league has to offer. To say he's just 'arguably' better than those who are marginal stars at best(in JJs case) and above average role players at worst(Rudy and Shard) is ludicrous.

    That's not to say I wouldn't prefer other players. Bosh is one(due to fit), Lebron, Kobe, Wade, etc. are others, but talents like this aren't readily available and, imo, this team as currently composed isn't a title contender. The addition of Melo, once again imo, is our only real chance at contention.

    Plus, I think it's safe to assume we'd see a rise in his efficiency when he'd be surrounded by multiple offensive threats.
     
  5. DaGreatest

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    players like Melo are all about the hype and bright lights so I refuse to get intrigued by anything until hes in Rockets red
     
  6. mFt82

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    It seems as though the focus on "star players" has somehow become amplified since the Miami fiasco. Sure they look great on paper but I wouldn't be surprised if they underperform as is and either Bosh or James get shipped out prior to the trade deadline.

    I think the only difference between "star players" and "really good players" is that some people refer to them as "stars." The socially constructed value of some players amazes me almost to the extent that other players are somehow "socially constricted."

    I don't think the Rockets are the team to beat, as is, and I don't think Carmello's punk ass is the answer... How is it that some players get this "star status" again? The rockets should wait for something better to come along because it most definitely will.
     
  7. Little Bit

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    Want a blanket? Because it's going to be a long night..... :p
     
  8. AGBee

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    Heat are going to trade LeBron THIS SEASON? My head just exploded :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  9. mFt82

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    I Seriously doubt they'd trade Lebron. They're certain not trading wade. Who does that leave?
     
  10. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

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    if the Heat ship out Bosh, i certainly hope we dont gut our team trying to get him. Melo is the only star worth trading for atm.
    i seriously doubt they are parting with any of their 3 and i doubt they are going to be a disappointment to Miami.
     
  11. romaboy

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    Honestly, is there any possibility to have melo and don't give away brooks martin scola or yao?
    reply please guys
     
  12. MightyMog

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    What do you mean the Rockets don't want Melo???????? Weren't there reports that the Rockets offered a package? Isn't that saying they want Melo but only for the price they want it at.

    If Melo doesn't come here, it isn't because the Rockets didn't want him.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't think Melo gets this Rockets team any closer to contention than it already is, as assembled.

    Because right now the team has talent everywhere, all star or near all star talent in 4 of the starting 5 positions, and great developing and producing talent off the bench.

    Understand that if the team traded for Melo, you would have to significantly weaken the team to make it happen.

    If Melo was a trancendent player, a guy who lifted up others, if he was as good as Tmac was when we acquired him in 2005, then sure...you roll the dice and go for it.

    But he isn't, Melo is a star player, who is not capable of leading a team, or having one built around him.

    I am adverse to paying Robin Max money when the team still needs a Batman.

    We have enough Robin's as is......and unless you are getting a Batman, you hope that a bunch of Robin's is good enough.


    Why do you think that? He is surrounded by offensive threats in Denver too....I think he is what he is, a very good scorer, who thinks he is on par with Kobe, Wade and Lebron etc.....but just isn't.

    DD
     
  14. agentkirb87

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    Assuming the trade is based around one of Martin or Brooks and not both... I don't see how this is possible.

    These 3+ for 1 type trades happen all the time and you see similar arguments made about weakening the bench. But off the top of my head I can't think of single 3+ for 1 type deal (where the player wasn't a vet or didn't have obvious trade issues) where the team that got the 1 actually lost.

    As bad as people say McGrady was, we still won that trade and it wasn't even close. Shaq for Odom/Butler was a win for the Heat obviously. Perhaps AI for Miller, but the 76ers didn't get any further than the Nuggets did... and AI netted Billups eventually.

    Usually in trades for these major stars... it's always a good thing for the team that gets them.
     
  15. Ramathorn006

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    Yeah? And he led that team to the WCF without a dominant big man. Imagine if Yao was on that team? They would have beat the Lakers without a doubt.

    And actually we have all star caliber players at 2 out of the 5 positions. Until Kevin Martin and Aaron Brooks learn how to play defense, then you can consider them in the all-star caliber list.

    Your argument that Melo is not a leader is just bogus. National Championship in college? Dont tell me the coach is the leader in college, the players are the ones who perform on the court.

    At this point I could care less if we added Melo or not. I'm just ready for some rockets basketball, with this squad assembled or with Melo. Either way we are in good shape.

    If Yao is healthy. :)
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I agree, but Melo is not even close to on par with McGrady when we traded for him, McGrady was arguably the best player in the league when we got him, Melo is arguably top 12-15, and that depends upon criteria...

    Scoring - yes....all the rest...no.


    I am trying to imagine Yao on the Rockets......and not get ahead of ourselves.


    I agree they need to play better defense, so does Melo, btw, I think Brooks is not bad on defense, but Martin and Melo are horrible.

    Sorry to dissappoint you, but Melo was not the leader of that team, he was the leading scorer, and yes, it was the coach...college championships are meaningless, we are talking about the pros anyway.

    I 100% agree with you, just bring on the stinking season already !!

    DD
     
  17. Corpusfan

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    Well said. The pieces we'd have to give up just aren't worth what we'd be getting back in Melo. We don't just need scoring at that position, we need defense and passing and someone who fits in with this team. We have at least some of that with Battier and Budinger. I just don't think when all's said and done and we've lost some key players and added Melo, that this team is better.
     
  18. Raven

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    We don't know what we'd have to give up, and Morey's going to have no choice but to use some players in a package deal, because we've run out of roster slots! Think about it, where do we make room for the three first round picks we're due over the next 24 months? Not to mention second round picks and eventually Sergio. It's a great problem to have, I know, but it's still a problem.

    And deep teams have trouble keeping everyone happy about their playing time and touches, so an argument could be made that a package deal would actually have some upsides. After all, young players need PT in order to develop. It's the reward for playing hard in practice and staying out of trouble.
     
  19. NBA_Elite

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    Martin+Hill+Jeffries+2 of the NY picks for Melo is my offer

    in other words, Tmac+Landry for Melo
     

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