The current celtics were actually built as a result of the TWolves and Sonics/Thunder blowing up. I don't really see the Celtics as a rebuilding team that hit it big. The did well in the playoffs before then, but were a crappy team overall that were in a very weak East.
I wish Oswalt was traded to Saint Louis. But when do you rebuild? I say right after a championship ex: Boston celtics This is just my personal opinion as you'd need to patch up your team for contension. Sort of like the Lakers signing Steve Blake and Matt Barnes (and a rumored McGrady if Brown goes to NY)
This analysis is right on target. The Rockets appear to have a "solid" core, how good is yet to be determined. Yao is the wild card; once he is out of the deck, you deal.
if you build it right you are always in a state of rebuild D.M. does it right at this moment he has assets that he needs to move & he will on or before the deadline &probably for younger cheaper talent DATTS WHA MAKE EM dork ELVIS !!!!
I actually think this team has a lot of young talent and potential. Granted potential means you haven't done anything yet, but I still an excited to see how good we can be this year. As far as rebuilding, everyone knows it all depends how well Yao plays and recovers. But the way Morey has gotten the team younger every year, likes to collect draft picks and the draft skills he has, I don't know if this team will really skip a beat and have to be terrible to rebuild (if they will even need to, which is jumping the gun before this season plays out, I think).
Wait, you guys mean you don't rebuild every single year that you don't win the championship? This is getting too complicated.
i don't think the Rockets, under this managment, will ever have to rebuild from scratch, because they've never dug themselves in deep holes like the Astros did, the Rockets re-tool, not rebuild.
The Astros aren't rebuilding just listen to their idiot GM and he'll tell you that. I think if your smart you should never have to rebuild completely. Unfortunately that means selling as high as you can with some players and letting go of fan favorites from time to time in order to not experience their downside. By constantly assessing a players value a team can keep a better handle on what they can get and when a players value starts to decline around the league.
I think Morey started rebuilding when he traded McGrady. You could argue, though, that he started rebuilding the second he took over as GM. He's done a great job and he's still in the building mode, looking for that last piece. The idea that you necessarily have to get rid of all your best players and start from scratch when you rebuild is silly, and counterproductive.
They should have started at the end of the playoff run of 08-09. Its over, I'm just waiting for the fat lady.
DM is at the cross roads. He's built the foundation and the walls, but needs the roof. I think Bosh was a replacement for Yao, not a partner. Not that Yao is already finished, but we don't know his future. Morey is looking for that franchise player. AB, CBud, Hill, Taylor, Ariza, these guys are good, but not franchise players and please don't tell me AB is because he isn't. I think if by the end of this season, he hasn't traded for that kind of player then it's rebuild time and we have a good young core to do that with, but you still need that magic draft for the franchise player.
We are already rebuilding I think. Morey's under pressure to assemble a team that wins now which is why we got Miller. Frankly, the Yao route to a championship is a dead-end route. Deep down, we all know this. We just need another season or 2 of stomach turning drama to accept this.
....I don't see the point in going into strict rebuilding mode - it's a foolish way of thinking. If you don't sign stupid contracts, you'll always be able to flip good players on your roster for different assets/picks. You can make over a roster in a number of ways - by draft, FA signings, and trade. Morey is keeping his options open every summer to be a player in any of those player acquisition methods - wherever the opportunity presents itself. My problem with rebuilding mode is it limits you to one type of acquisition method - the draft....because realistically no difference making superstar FA is going to consider signing to a team with a rebuilding type roster and when your in rebuilding mode, you have no assets to trade with....so you put all your eggs in the draft basket which will always be an imperfect science even with the most obvious can't miss prospects. It seems like a low risk, high reward strategy because of the nature of the rookie contract but when you consider you threw away your team's hopes for a year or more, it's a much higher risk strategy than at first it seems. Also, just because a team is rebuilding, it doesn't mean the opportunity will be there. For instance, the Kings have been rebuilding the last few years. They are now building around Tyreke Evens and DeMarcus Cousins - why? because they were there when they drafted. Would you want to build a championship team around those guys? Probably not. After all, what does it say about your "PG" of the future if he can't play with a versatile SG who can catch and shoot(Kevin Martin)? They went to rebuilding mode and are now playing the hand they were dealt which is probably not a championship type team but definitely a playoff team in the future. Why not just keep your perennial playoff team in tact and surround them reasonable players and keep trying to take those pieces and flip them into better pieces? ....I mean it does work out for some teams, but I think in general the best teams over the history of the NBA didn't go into full on rebuilding modes - they were just smart about their roster and were able to capitalize when opportunity presented itself - whether it be via trade, FA, or draft.
Morey's been pushing hard the past two offseasons to trade our assets for a high draft pick (Ricky Rubio last summer, the No. 2 or 5 pick this summer) or a star player (Bosh). These moves would have brought to Houston stars or potential stars without rebuilding. But so far, of course, he's been unsuccessful. There could come a point when Morey decides no amount of second- and third-tier assets will net the team the stars it needs to contend for a championship, and decide to blow it up. But I think we're still pretty far from that point.
One more thing. This is an old argument, but almost every championship team obtained at least one of their top 2 players through the draft. Recent examples are Bryant (Lakers), Duncan (Spurs), and Pierce (Celtics). Yao would have been our guy if it weren't for his injury problems. For me, this shows just how difficult - nearly impossible - it is to build a championship team without getting a high lottery pick.
The only way to rebuild is through the draft. Trade away your assets, get ready for some 60 loss seasons and empty stadiums, stick it out until you get lucky and the right guy/guys get on your team.
