Im expecting the season to be called off. As long a good deal for both sides is worked out, I will be OK with it.
I don't think the majority of players can go that long without a paycheck. Come Dec, when the fans are watching football and no one is complaining about a lack of basketball, I think players are going to start sweating it out.
What are you talking about? It's not exactly only up to Stern. I don't blame him at all for this. It's a disagreement. There are two parties involved. Players and Owners. Not to set the blame on one single person.
I'm going to say the whole season lost. If the players learned anything at all from last time, they'll have prepared themselves to go a whole season. And, of course, the owners can go a whole season. Then when there starts to be a threat of losing games in the next season, someone will blink and we'll get a deal.
The only benefit of having a full season lockout is that it's 1 more year taken off from a LerBon potential championship. Besides that, Dirk, Nash, Kobe, MerGady (lulz), Duncan are only getting older.
So you want the owners to break the union. That implies that the current crisis is a crisis caused by the union, not the owners. It doesn't imply that both are "equally to blame" (not a position I hold, but you imply that that is not the case), but rather one caused by the players and their union, thus the need to "break" that union. Wow, Major, some heavy insight to your thinking. Thanks for that.
He's a commissioner that will allow for TWO lockouts, and this could be worse than 99 (which cost the league 32 games). He's a lawyer, and he works for the owners. For him to cry foul about the current CBA when he clamored they got a great deal in 99 is pathetic. The NBA is headed in the right direction, primarily b/c of the hate for Lebron James and the Heat, but they have to keep that momentum going. The NBA became the #2 sports in the country after last year, destroying MLB's pathetic ratings. If they have a lockout, expect ratings to drop from the 20 mil viewers back to possibly single digits again. It took them over a decade to regenerate the buzz after that lockout in 99. The players have been more than willing to "give back" (last time I read they were willing to give back $600 mil), but the owners want more. It's all up to the owners really.
The NHL lost their ESPN contract. They went from having games publicized all over the place on the biggest sports network in the world....to being reduced to playing on a channel I didn't know existed before. Despite that, the owners still contend it was the best decision they ever made...that they beat the union back and made their league much healthier. A few of those owners are NBA owners as well. I don't see this thing ending anytime soon. This looks to me a lot more like the previous NHL situation than the current NFL situation.
Maybe one could argue the union is the primary obstacle to an equitable new agreement being reached. But both sides are equally to blame for the old CBA that caused the current crisis.
Game changer this time around is the overseas options. Not the same money, but plenty of guys can get temporary means of income to get by.
Two likely outcomes: over before the season or no season. Let's see who blinks first. Both sides are idiots if they end up losing the whole season. Greed, greed, greed. I don't believe that the owners actually lose money; that's more about creative accounting AND the players salaries are ridiculous.They both should join the "real world" with the rest of us. I can't afford to buy avocados any more. They are $8 for five at Sams.
i wonder if they will auction off jersey space for added revenue like soccer. They already are letting NBA players puss out and act like them.
No it doesn't - that's just your own take on it. It implies that the current system is not workable, regardless of who's fault it was - I couldn't care less about how they got to this point. Both sides were participants in that as they both agreed to the last deal. Going forward, the owners want to change the system; the players want to keep it. Thus, yes, the players' union needs to broken if there are going to be significant changes. Very simple. But feel free to keep making up your own bizarre viewpoints to attribute to me - that shows a lot of insight into your own thinking.
According to Tom Ziller of SB Nation, the NBA player's union and NBA are working out details to meet for the inaugural bargaining session of the NBA lockout within the first couple of weeks in August. Very interesting timing. We've heard that the two sides weren't planning on getting together at any point soon, but as Ziller notes, the NBPA recently expressed some consideration to look into a decertification process, and that could have prompted the league into a response. The conflict definitely won't be resolved over night, but at least it appears that the parties will be talking in the not too distant future. http://www.sbnation.com/2011/7/26/2...ion-of-nba-lockout-to-be-held-in-early-august
Nope. Because once the new CBA is in place, he would earn less in the NBA than his salary in Turkey. Also, because Williams' team does not even play in the Euroleague.
False. The NBA is always going to pay its star players. It is the "NBA middle class" that needs to worry.