When did America become so beta? Saudi unhappy about bill related to 9/11

I don't think you understand how much the U.S. has to lose if sovereignty is no longer protected. The U.S. could be sued in foreign courts for everything from Iraq to Hiroshima and would likely lose and face incredible costs and a diplomatic nightmare.

Sovereignty protects the U.S. more than any nation in the world. France is already amending its own laws to be able to sue the U.S. n their courts, other countries will follow suit.

Also how will this work even - U.S. courts are not equipped to handle these cases - they aren't going to get cooperation from the Saudis in any trial so it literally will be a kangaroo court.

 

Saying that the victims and families of 9/11 should not sue Salafi Arabia is like saying that people should not protest or sue police when they believe the police have acted against them with malicious intent (i.e. police brutality). It is just a dumb argument all around and I am surprised that a president with a law degree, and teaching experience, is getting hung-up on such a childish slippery-slope argument.

 

Even if US were sued the only way you could collect would be if US had assets in an overseas entity. I think the bigger concern is Saudi will just pull their money from US banks. They probably have trillions in assets. Even if the victims win they wouldn't be able to collect. It's not like a US ruling is valid in Saudi Arabia.

 

Except that it's not.

 

If the US Economy tanks..the world markets would crash...And the world would enter a major depression. It would take a major scientific innovation or another world war to jump start our nation again. The Chinese own us...and now the Saudi's do as well?? The US has become an international b#$% and some on this board are ready to vote for another sellout.

Our nation has been sold out and our interests are NO longer the best interests for our leaders.

 

congress wanted in the 70s to sue Saudis for Oil embargo
congress wanted in the 80s to sue Saudis for supporting yasser Arafat and PO
congress wanted in the 90s to sue Saudis for prosecuting Jihadists and stripping citizenship of bin laden among others under the title of human right violation
congress wants now to sue the Saudis for 9/11 involvement based on pipedreams of (the 28 classified pages )
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/28-pages-released-full-text/ , which Bush/Obama kept it secret for a decade and half but politcaly gave what it seems a false impression

regardless of the indictment , it is an election time, showcase of who is more pro-israel between Dem/Rep. does matter. the US can confiscated Saudi's assets if they wanted to, the Saudi can withdraw from The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons or use different currency to sell oil etc , China/EU are pegged to this as well , it will be thrilling at least and highly intoxicating

 

It's weird that he'd face a potential override of a veto one of the few times Obama is right about something.

 

I don't think you understand what the word "literally" means.

 

We've done some incredibly shady things in the past as well

 

Then be an adult and owe up to your misdeeds.

 

Just take the world cup away from Qatar and everything is fine.

DD

 

Officially...the Senate did her job and overturned Obama's veto

 

I'm so do for this. If our soldier kill innocent people overseas they should be jailed overseas and we should wash our hands of them.

I'm happy this veto got overturned though like someone mentioned, money talks and if the Saudis refuse to do business here because of it then these lawsuits won't amount to anything but kangaroo courts.

 

That sir is the one thing that makes me not want this bill to go through there will be so many law suits against the US .

 

Guess we should elect Trump then; he's the king of getting sued.

 

It open every possibility .It can be blown in every direction , it is possible now to sue the congress it self for passing the 38billion military aid to a state sponsored terrorism

 

The NYT has an article on this. The way it went down seems like a complete miscalculation by all parties.

 

So incredibly stupid. Even though it wasn't a national referendum, it feels like like our very own brexit