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When Cruz Makes His Move, Watch Out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Deckard

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    We can only hope that once Cruz flames out, that he has burned too many bridges to return to politics.

    Just a turd of a human being.
     
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    Rubio might be running for Trump's VP.
     
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    He'll elevate himself to perhaps the most influential member of the Senate. He has a long, long political runway.
     
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    Does he do that by making all the other Republican senators hate him? Perhaps you mean the most hated Senator ever? :grin:
     
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    Enjoy your fantasy. Cruz is quite possibly the most reviled senator in the chamber - by Republicans.
     
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    Batman AND Robin. It's a long border.
     
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    First with Jopat/TJ/Basso and now MojoMan. Whats with the neo-cons. on this board getting ahead of themselves talking a lot of s hit and then disappearing better than Lawson has at any point this season?

    I've always wondered what type of people would vote for vile and disgusting people like cruz, so it really isn't surprising they would display this sort of character and cowardice.
     
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    I hope Cruz wins his home state on super Tuesday so he continue his delusion that he'll ever be potus one day.
     
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    I think we will soon see a shift from Cruz, the next Reagan President to Cruz, the next great VP, so for people like Mojoman and Commodore the delusion will continue.

    While ordinarily VP is a pretty safe do-nothing job for someone who is largely a do-nothing Senator, it would still be annoying seeing Cruz sitting behind President Trump in SOTU and other addresses to congress, which in itself should be enough of a reason to vote Democrat. :) But the idea of such a confrontational and difficult to work with person as VP should make him a horrible choice.
     
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    Well don't worry about it, Trump has literally 0 chance of winning the presidency. That nomination would be a total disgrace and embarrassment to the United States. The fact that Trump is a front runner is already a national disgrace and embarrassment.

    That said, he might pick Cruz seeing as how Cruz staying in the race is the only way Trump is going to win the nomination.
     
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ted-cruz-flint-aid-219787

    He really is such a b*stard.
     
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    Where the Cruzers at tho?
     
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    Cruz leads Trump in Texas by 16 in the Monmouth poll published today. In the RCP poll average for Texas, Cruz leads by 7.

    So Cruz won in Iowa and he appears to be in a strong position to win in Texas. Also, he should pick up delegates across the South on Tuesday. This will keep him alive, but it will not transform the race in a way that radically improves his prospects for winning the nomination, which appear to have stagnated after his win in Iowa.

    If Cruz does not win in Texas, he is probably done. However, that also applies to Marco Rubio in Florida, with the difference being that Rubio is trailing Trump by 19 in the RCP poll average for Florida, while Cruz leads in his home state of Texas.

    Of course as people constantly forget, things change quickly and substantially in these sorts of contests. And they are going to have to for Ted Cruz to alter the current trajectory of this race in a manner that is sufficient for him to win the nomination. The SEC primary will be key for both Cruz and Rubio.

    The momentum of Donald Trump has defied all odds, as he continues to roll almost unimpeded through these debates and these primary election contests. People are voting with their emotions instead of their heads. They want a fighter, even a brass-knuckled brawler to be the Republican nominee. After the pathetic efforts of the last two Republican nominees and the current Republican Congress, who can blame them.

    Surprise outcomes are not uncommon in these sorts of contests. Will we see a surprise of sufficient magnitude to derail the Trump train? It is really hard to imagine Marco Rubio doing anything that would cause that. So at least as far as I can see, it will be up to Ted Cruz. From where he stands now, he is clearly appears to be approaching this task as a prohibitive underdog. As a result, Cruz has his work cut out for him.
     
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    Hey man, props to you for coming back to reality. I mean it. You have proven you are not hopeless, unlike greatboobies. :grin:
     
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    Thank you for saying so, but I do not believe I ever left reality. Cruz has run a pretty good campaign in most respects. By most normal metrics, except the polls and the vote counts, Donald Trump has not. However, Trump is rolling up the delegates, while four other candidates divide up a consistent majority of the Republican votes.

    Nevertheless, even if several of those candidates get out, it may not be fast enough to make a difference. Or even if it does happen fast, who is to say that the level of Trump's support does not increase past the 50% threshold? What he is doing now was thought to be impossible by nearly everyone three months ago. So why would him winning over 50% still be impossible?

    Also, while Trump may well go on to win the Republican nomination, it never fails to amaze me how many people believe that whatever is happening now is almost certainly what will continue to happen and that any radical, transformational changes in the course of a race like this are all but impossible. In fact, there are probably several big course changes yet to be seen in this race between now and November, even though we do not know what they are.
     
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    Great.

    Btw, did you see the news on an elections guru who predicted Trump has a 97% of becoming president if he is the Republican nominee? Apparently, the dude believes Trump beats Shillary easily, and he has a good prediction record to back him up.

    Google Trump and 97% chance.
     
  19. MojoMan

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    Yeah, I saw it. It is still not clear to me that she is even going to be the Democrat's nominee. I know, that is what the "experts" are saying. Am I the only person in this country who retains recollections of how frequently these people are wrong?

    Anyway, even if Hillary and Trump are the nominees, 97% looks high to me. Actually, that seems unreasonably high for an estimate this far out regardless of who each party's nominees are.
     
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    Haters will hate....

     

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