Whats your view on the Dorsey pick? It seems pretty ridiculous

This sounds really familiar. Couldn't we have saved time and just copied the post-draft threads from last year and replaced Landry's name with Dorsey and substitute Douglas-Roberts and Jordan for Davis , McRoberts and Fazikas?

Did we learn nothing from last year?

 

He is the same height as Landry. Morey rates him as the best defensive big. Landry is the worst defensive PF in the Rockets main rotation.

 

I would put Landry ahead of Scola in that category.

 

I think (to borrow a saying from Stu last night), in the department of redundancy department, Morey and team decided another frontcourt player made more sense than another backcourt player.

Yes, Dorsey is a little undersized, but not with his wingspan/reach and physical attributes to play PF in the NBA. Yes, we have a bunch of other PF's, but Scola, at the time being, is the only one you can count on. Landry may not be back, and even if he is is still a backup. Hayes should be traded. Add in that Dorsey may be able to slip in at C in smaller lineups and that's a plus.

I think the other option at that pick was Mario Chalmers. But at PG, we also currently have Rafer, Brooks, BJ, and Steve. Like PF, Rafer is really the only one you can count on right now, but I guess Morey saw Chalmers as only having 1 position and not being as much of a need.

AS has been mentioned CDR dropped for valid reasons. DeAndre Jordan...pass (he may be best case Andrew Bynum...whatever that is). Hendrix - is he really better than Dorsey (remember Dorsey played on a team with other great players, Hendrix played on Alabama). Ante Tomic? A finesse big man? Pass. Once again, when it came down to the end of the season, the team with the hard nosed frontcourt prevailed...pass on finesse big men (and I think Yao is much more of a brusier than people give him credit for).

The problem with Chuck has been and will always be he is way way way too small. Deke is way way way too old. Dorsey addresses those issues, potentially.

I think the Greene pick was just awesome. As excited as I was about Batum, I'm moreso about Greene. He definitely has some warts, but he is also definitely going to be 20 years old when the season starts. But there's a group of posters around here who clearly have Morey all wrong. Greene is super young, super athletic with enormous upside.

Last night would have been an issue had the Rockets just straight out taken Dorsey with the 25th pick and called it a night, something I wouldn't have put past the old regime. Instead, for the second year in a row, they did some late first round/early second round wheeling and dealing, and I'm very optimistic Morey knows what he's doing.

 

Another undersized 4 that is great. We already had enough undersized 4's last year. We needed a 2 to replace head and we could have got cdr and instead we didn't. We need to draft on need not add another 2 guys who won't play for us. We could have just got batum if we wanted to do that.

 

i am not saying we had to draft him, but what happened to cdr? why all the teams passed him by until so late in the draft?

 

All Landry did was get a block at the end of a single game and his D becames good. When he's on the floor the Rockets seem to give up easy layups.

 

Dorsey is 6'7.25" in shoes.

Landry is 6'8.5" in shoes.

On the street I'd say they're the same height, but in the NBA the difference of more than an inch is considered significant. And Scola is the worst defensive PF in the rotation, not Landry...

 

The CDR stuff on this board has to stop. Listen to Morey. Put your thinking caps on.

The dude is too slow to turn into something great. He doesn't have the lateral quickness. More importantly, he doesn't have a good enough shot from NBA three point land. His % from college three isn't bad, but he didn't take a lot of them, and that is college. Morey has said he and others feel CDR can't extend his game to NBA range. They feel he is way too slow. They feel he doesn't get enough seperation on his mid range game. If you watched Memphis at all during the season, those are very accurate statements.

 

are you listening to morey right now?

 

I watched a few Memphis games on TV last year and Dorsey really stuck out, mostly because he has a build that you just don't see on a basketball player. He looks like he eats people. But Memphis DEFINITELY played differently when he was on the bench. Dorsey has a presence, no doubt about it. He can rebound and dunk and move people out of the paint, but he can't shoot from anywhere.

It seems like size doesn't factor much into to Morey's computer analysis of college players. Success seems to factor pretty heavily. I'm not overjoyed with the Dorsey pick, but there's plenty to like, and it'll be nice to have a team stocked full of winners.

 

the summer is still young. realistically, if we are looking for an upgrade at the back-up 2 or a legit 3rd scorer, we weren't going to make that happen in the draft...the wizard has some more bargaining chips now...give him some time. I have full faith in this guy...and some of the more delusional posters on this board need to go ahead and jump on the bandwagon...

as far as dorsey being undersized, that seems to be the way the position is headed. brand, boozer, west...all undersized 4's who are effective. he is going to run into mismatches, but who doesn't?

 

Actually, I wanted them to go after this guy. He was worth the gamble in the 2nd round and has the potential to be a very good PG. Unlike Brooks, he has the size for an NBA PG and definitely has the pedigree from college. I just don't like the Dorsey pick and at 6-7, he's undersized for the PF position and extremely undersized for the center position.

 

We always complain that Hayes can't finish after a Tmac pass, but Dorsey can and can do what Hayes does best. Defense and Rebounding

Dorsey is an upgrade over Hayes.


But picking Dorsey + Greene over Arthur + CDR doesn't strike me as right. We could have been more versatile

 

Since very few players use the top of their head to play defense, standing reach is a better measure than height. Dorsey's standing reach is 8'11" while Landry's is only 8' 6.5". That is a pretty big difference.

Just for comparision, Al Horford's standing reach is also 8'11" and Joakim Noah's is 8'10.5".

 

Are you freakin kidding me?? People, please get off of Chucks balls, the dude is terrible! I was at Reliant when Memphis was in town for the tourney....Dorsey is a BEAST!!!

Basically it comes down to would you rather have 6'5 (what 230 #?) Chuck Hayes or 6'7 265 # Dorsey? With a 7'2 wingspan and 8'11 standing reach + 10x more athletic....ITS A NO-BRAINER PEOPLE!!!

 

Maybe the Rockets having something else up their sleeve...ever thought about that?

 

Agree with you on Scola's defense. Looks like Dorsey has a monster wingspan and reach.

 

Agree to a certain extent, but don't underestimate Chuck's defensive BB IQ.