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What's your favorite rap "diss song"?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DallasThomas, Dec 18, 2003.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Tupac was a poetry and a dancer for Digital Underground.
     
  2. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    Why did you quote me when stating this pgabriel? :confused:
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I thought you were saying Tupac lived it.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    Well he had, he had been shot, shot at police, gone through many trials, been robbed, sold drugs, been to the pen, etc. He was a poet and a dancer for Digital Undeground but that doesn't change his past.
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    He went to prison for rape, and I don't know if he ever sold drugs.
     
  6. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    He rapped about it:

    "Even though I sell rocks
    It feels good puttin' money in ya mailbox"

    from the song "Dear Mama"
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    UmmKay,

    just because he rapped about it, its true.
     
  8. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    Well the subject material in that song was very sensitive, I doubt he lied about it but you're right just because he said it doesn't mean it actually happened but I'm willing to bet he did.
     
  9. JJ

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    Yep, its called "Rapture" He also does the same thing with "Represent the real Hip hop". He has a tight flow and good beats.

    Another one is "Mama said knock you out" by LL cool J. He was supposed to be dissin Kool Moe Dee. Hard ass beat. Pumps me up to this day.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That's fine,

    Look, it's obvious you're a huge Tupac fan, and that's fine, I actually like a lot of the man's songs. I just never bought into the whole image he tried to create for himself. I just find it funny that there are people, and I'm not saying you are one of them, who think he could do no wrong. I just don't understand the affect he has had on so many people when I think there are plenty of rappers who are more "real" than he was.
     
  11. Lil Pun

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    Personally, I believe that he did a wrong in a lot of his life. I also believe that most of what he said about himself to be true, pre-Death Row Records days that is. I believe that Suge Knight had a huge influence over Tupac during is time at Death Row and told and taught him things that would sell records and create controversy, period. If you also noticed, his rapping style changed when he went to Death Row because he began to constantly talk about the money which I believe was another

    The reason I find Tupac so captivating is because he could hit you from so many angles with his songs and poetry. He could be the hardest one out there or he could show you the wrong going on in society. Tupac was on a different level than a lot of rappers, past, present, and future.
     
  12. BlastOff

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    I'm with ya pgabriel. Part of the reason I didn't reason to Lil Pun is because I assumed that he might be one of those diehard fans who almost sees Tupac as a deity, as odd as that sounds. Dude was not a thug.
     
  13. ac in austin

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    Eminem- I remember... Everlast diss
     
  14. Lil Pun

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    I do not consider Tupac a deity. On on the subject of him being a "thug" it really depends. Are any of you familiar with his interpretation of what a "thug" is and what his "thug life" stood for. Tell me that and don't go do an Internat search for it tell me from your own memory and then we'll talk.
     
  15. BlastOff

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    Now we're going with his interpretation of a thug...whatever man.
     
  16. Lil Pun

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    I didn't say I was going with his because even by my standards he's still a thug I just asked for his. It's like I said it really depends on what your definition of a "thug" is. His is completely different from what you or your dictionary says and it's even different from my own view of what a thug is even though I consider him a thug by my own standards. Besides I asked for his interpretation from the start so don't go there.
     
  17. BlastOff

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    Not only will I go there, I'll go all in the crack of there. YOU describing HIS interpretation of thug is just ridiculous. If you were even a fan of his it is obvious his meaning of thug is exactly the same as that in the dictionary. I guess he had a different interpretation of "Gs" too huh? Dude get a grip, you're just angry that Tupac is just as manufactured as 99% of the so-called thug rap artists.
     
  18. Lil Pun

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    I'm not angry but it's like I keep saying he had a differet definition. Even if you go by the dictionary's definition he still lived a thug's life.

    Here's the dictionary's definition of thug:
    NOUN: 1. A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.

    cutthroat:
    NOUN: 1. An unprincipled, ruthless person.

    ruffian:
    NOUN: 1. A tough or rowdy person.

    hoodlum:
    NOUN: 1. A tough, often aggressive or violent youth.

    Can you sit here and honestly deny Tupac was none of the above? I didn't think so. I'll admit that during his year with Death Row, that that persona was manufactured but before that he was everything he said he was.
     
  19. Agent86

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    Blastoff. by the way your talking I can tell you dont like him. and if you dont like him, you dont listen to him, and if you dont listen to him you dont know. and if you think hes "manufactured" show me one other artist that had as many great songs as tupac did by the age of 25.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Michael jackson.
     

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