Towards the end of last season Lue said it himself that he considered himself a backup, not a starting caliber player.
good post. I was just comparing Lue and Fisher's career numbers and they are pretty similar. Now this doesn't account for defense but their offensive numbers are realy close. After seeing Fisher's stats I think he is overrated and I am happy having Lue as a backup. The only problem is that there might not be many better starting PG's out there. Lue's career stats minutes 23.2 fg% .432 3 pt% .385 FT% .789 rebs 1.8 asts 3.2 stl 0.65 blks 0.02 (6 blocks in 283 games ) to 1.22 points 8.0 Fisher's career stats minutes 23.7 fg% .397 3 pt% .368 FT% .766 rebs 2.1 asts 3.0 stl 1.03 blks 0.08 to 1.11 points 7.4 Fisher's shot accuracy is lower in every catagory than Lue which is surprising to me becasue Fisher has had the luxury of playing off of Shaq's double team for most of his career giving him more open looks. Fisher does have a signifcant advantage in steals but everything else is a wash. I'd take Fisher if we didn't already have Lue but since we have Lue adding Fisher would not be a significant upgrade in my opinion.
u put any PG match up with Lue, they will be easily pulling up jumpers over him, Lue is too short, too slow, the offense he run is the worst in the league. So plz take a seat in the bench. I'd rather start Reece Gains than Mr. Lue
Too slow? He's one of the quickest in the league. Offense is bad? His assist and turnovers are pretty much carbon copies of Fishers. The defense I guess is the only problem, but he is a pesky defender who would not be too much of a problem.
It would be a huge problem. Lue gets way too much credit for playing Iverson tough. The truth was, he overachieved for 2 reasons: 1. Fouls, like shirt tugging, don't get called as much during the finals. We need to get through the regular season first. 2. Iverson's tiny, himself. Lue fares very poorly against bigger guards.
Didn't Iverson average something like 35 ppg that series? That's what you call overachieving by the defender guarding him?
I haven't watch Lue very much...I do remember when he was on the Lakers...the Finals..but I think he is a good backup. He is quick. We need a point guard to start..or anyone that can play the point...Peeler Tmac Jimmy Lamar Eric Reece Mike Mark Damon anyone!
Too long ago for me to remember . I remember Lue doing a serviceable job. But it was more along the lines of "hold onto his jersey and hope I don't get caught" than anything else. Lue was a hot commodity, in the grand tradition of Austin Croshere, et al, after that series. But it was all smoke and mirrors: the defense sucked.
10 Points 4 assists 2.5 boards @43.2% are hardly bad numbers. one thing to run the magic, but can he run the rockets a Team with so much expectations this Season?
Game 1 = 48 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds (though 18-41) Game 2 = 23 points (can't get the rest of the box score to pop up) Here are some comments: Fisher scored 14 and played a big part in containing Allen Iverson...he series resumes Sunday night in Philadelphia, where Iverson will try to make a bigger contribution. He was held to 23 points, primarily because of Fisher's defense, and missed all four of his free throw attempts. "Did he play me well? You can't take anything away from Fish. He did a little of everything, but I can't remember the last time I went to the free throw line just twice," Iverson said. "There's something fishy about that, but I'm not whining. Believe me." Game 3 = 35 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists Game 4 = 35 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists Game 5 = 37 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists So, in the one game where Iverson is contained, the defensive credit goes to Fisher. http://www.nba.com/finals2001/ Also, for the games that I could get the boxscore for, it looks like Iverson shot 53-133 or 42%. He averaged 35.6 ppg with Game 1 included, 32.5 without. He also averaged 4.75 apg (exlcudes Game 2 - no boxscore) and 6.5 rebounds, both at or above his season average for the year. So, in essence, whoever was playing defense on Iverson did no better than anyone else has ever done - in fact, they seemed to do worse. I'm not saying Lue would be a horrible defender or a meltdown of a starter, but he is clearly a better 6th or 7th man than starting material. Man-to-man perimeter defense has got to be very very hard in the NBA. Next to guarding Shaq (and hopefully, eventually Yao), I don't know if there is any individual defensive assignment that is harder than the likes of defending a Jason Williams, Kobe Bryant, Tony Parker, etc. when these guys are on. That is why players like GP in his defensive prime or a Kobe Bryant now (who is a very good perimeter defender) were so valuable. Heck, Tayshaun Prince's perimeter defense on Kobe probably won the series for Detroit. I don't think there are any great man-to-man defenders out there. Fisher is probably the best bet, and he is solid at running an offense. If only his and Lue's games weren't so similar. As weak as he may have been laterally, I still think Barry would have been one of the better defensive choices as he would have contributed to a starting lineup with no player smaller than 6-6.
Lou and Fisher have similar stats cause both of them are not starters, and Fisher is overated cause of his shampionships and playing with kobe and shaq.
I'm just worried about if we start lue, we are starting essentially the whole orlando magic line up last season with addition of yao... how much wins we will get in the west? I'm just not sure...
Thats not true really: - There's Yao. - There's JJ, better than any SF they had. - There's a more motivated, healthier T-Mac. - There's our bench (Pike, Boki, MoT) versus theirs (Britton Johnsen, Steven Hunter, Drew Gooden). Our bench, SF, and C is incredibly better than theirs. Our coach is ten times the coach as well. Don't forget, we're not done with the roster - it clearly won't stay this way, so there is at least one more significant addition.
