1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

What's with Rafer these days?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AggieRocketFan96, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. T.Mcgrady

    T.Mcgrady Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Messages:
    1,080
    Likes Received:
    33
    I like this swagger from Rafer. Every great team needs someone who brings that to the table.
     
  2. BoomShakalaka

    BoomShakalaka Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    0
    3 out of how many games. there is no pattern
     
  3. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,051
    I mentioned this in the Vulajic incident, and Rafer has got to keep Skip in line. I know his swagger fuels his game, but when he starts showing off instead of giving crisp passes and maintaining efficiency of the offense, that rhythm can throw off his teammates.

    He has to keep Adelman and his teammates words in mind.
     
  4. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,447
    Likes Received:
    2,711
    This is awesome logic.

    My dog has eaten just fine his whole life...something like 2,000 days or so, but over the past 2 weeks he's thrown up 4 or 5 times right after eating.

    But it's only 4 or 5 times out of 2,000 days so there must not be a trend there!

    :confused:
     
  5. BoomShakalaka

    BoomShakalaka Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    0
    exactly no pattern. he mentioned 3 games, not out of how many, guess you are the one confused
     
  6. AggieRocketFan96

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    959
    Likes Received:
    372
    I don't know maybe its my age (35) or how I was brought up in sports but I would be willing to bet that these guys that confuse Rafer's sense of sportsmanship with swagger are all under the age of 18 or simply act like it.





     
  7. BoomShakalaka

    BoomShakalaka Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    0
    You must play like a F A G and scared that your opponent might get mad and play tougher. If a player cant respond to his opponent's intensity , then he shouldn't play at all. grow some nutts
     
  8. bloop

    bloop Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,143
    Likes Received:
    134
    EXACTLY.

    rafer draws strength from attitude. without it he wouldn't dare shoot with such confidence. now this can bite you in the ass, as earlier this season when he kept putting it up and nothing was falling. but it's the same will and toughness of mind that allowed him to probably the BIGGEST factor in our streak after yao went out. on a team where the superstars are not "hard" someone has to be the enforcer, rafer's it

    so QQ.

    it's hypocritical to go to the butcher to get meat then cry that he's slaughtering cows. just support your damn team and quit crying and nitpicking now that the streak is over
     
  9. AggieRocketFan96

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    959
    Likes Received:
    372
    Yep, case proven.

    Even in my older years, I love to play one on one with the young guys that just talk smack, worry about their looks, playing the "and 1" style and just completely and utterly dominate them. Now that's NUTTS!

     
  10. BoomShakalaka

    BoomShakalaka Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    0

    Nutts is playing hard and having no fear.
    Appears to me that you hate the whole "AND 1" theme. Rafer backs up his talk.
     
  11. ClutchCityReturns

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    13,447
    Likes Received:
    2,711
    You're not making a whole lot sense here.
     
  12. SuperStar

    SuperStar Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    5,057
    Likes Received:
    70
    Whatever works for Rafer, Fake, Real, who cares? I hope he keeps doing it. Regardless if its trash talking, playing and 1 ball, etc. I rather not have him revert back to the Rafer before the 22 game winning streak.
     
  13. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,338
    Likes Received:
    33,058
    LMAO
    So . . what you saying is. . .The critics come out . .when there is something to criticize?

    Rocket River
     
  14. bloop

    bloop Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,143
    Likes Received:
    134
    I dont know what league you're watching. you're supposedly an "old timer" "venerated elder" yet 20 years ago this league was bloody as hell.

    scola's flagrant 1 would have been called "defending the lane" and neither alston nor rondo would have even gotten technicals for their conversation. if you think alston has an attitude go ask detroit circa 89 or any of those lakers teams what a hard attitude on the basketball court is.

    toughness = wins. it's no coincidence that you saw them emerge at the same time during the streak
     
  15. Zboy

    Zboy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,958
    I don't know about you guys but I would rather have a classless Rafer who plays out of his mind over a classy Rafer who makes 30% of his shots.

    If Rafer needs to be a punk to perform, then be all you can be Rafer!!

    Be our Rodman.

    Pass on the "be humble, be hungry" motto to everyone on the team but him.
     
  16. 3Rings

    3Rings Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 1999
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    137
    Going against an elite team, what was the two left handed passes that became turnovers? AND1, confidence or stupidity?
     
  17. SuperStar

    SuperStar Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    5,057
    Likes Received:
    70
    Is he not allowed to have some bad plays? How well has he been playing since the start of the streak?
     
  18. AggieRocketFan96

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    959
    Likes Received:
    372
    I never thought anything about Scola's hard foul being anything like Rafer showboating. And your linkage to the circa 89 Pistons to Rafer's showing up his opponents have no relevance. Playing hard (Laimbeer, Vinnie Johnson, Isiah, Mahorn, Dennis Rodman, John Salley, etc) isn't the same as making a steal and looking back at your opponent in a silly staredown while streaking for a layup. I was just waiting for Rafer to blow the layup after that one, reminescent of Leon Lett from the Cowboys.

    Funny how some people seem to equate showboating with toughness. I'm not saying to not have an attitude or a mean streak (Otis Thorpe comes to mind) but when it comes down to stupid, immature antics then I believe that hurts a team more than it helps. I'd rather see "toughness" manifested like a Battier or a Carl Landry, not rafer-style showboating. Rafer is too good a player to be doing that crap nowadays.



     
  19. 3Rings

    3Rings Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 1999
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    137
    He's allowed to have bad plays, but those passes stand out because they are a reflection of his attitude tonight and the past 2-3 games.

    Look, I could see him staring Rondo down during the layup, but Cassell had just entered the game. Face it, the Celtics got in his head and his behavior was what we saw tonight.

    Remember, stay humble, stay hungry.
     
  20. jajayao

    jajayao Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2003
    Messages:
    218
    Likes Received:
    6
    Wow, when we lose, some fans really just have to throw something or someone under a bus. Let us remember that the beef with New Orleans stems from last season(Remember the ejection of him and Desmond Mason?). The Lakers game was over, Vujajic kept on pressuring Rafer for no reason, and he barely did anything in terms of And1 moves and you call that showboating?

    I love having a guy like Rafer on the team. I wouldn't an entire team with this personality, ahem, the Celtics, but 1 person with that kind of passion doesn't hurt. And if it helps his shot and the Rockets win games, so be it.
     

Share This Page