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whats with all this lowry hate?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by n8dagr8, Apr 26, 2012.

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  1. rlmjdime

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    Completely agree. It was foolish to think that Lowry could come back, after that type of infection, and compete at the level he was at. Lowry didn't lose his spot to poor play while being healthy. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, and would love to have either one on this team. I do like Goran's passing and can see him improving that to a ridiculous level. Most seem to be content with putting all their eggs in an unrestricted free agent's basket. The market will dictate the future of this team. That market being both Kyle's value as a trade chip(picks or player) and what Goran gets offered. Unfortunately I think the Rocket's are in the back seat for this one.
     
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    I see what you did there...
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    DD. :)
     
  3. RocketRaccoon

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    what I see after a play gets my attention too. All things (plays) being equal, I find Lowry's constant complaining bothersome. I don't hate Lowry, far from it, but I find Gogi a bit more professional.
     
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  4. CCorn

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    Lowry was one of the biggest snubbs from the all star game this year. Dragic is a great player, needs to be a starter somewhere, but he never touched the level Lowry was playing at earlier this season, a triple double threat every night.

    I think Dragic is our future pg, not for skill reason, but for "basketballreasons"
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    EXACTLY - as I said, same situation again....to a tee.

    DD
     
  6. StevieCrossover

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    Our future is Lowry! Cheap contract and he plays hard! Once he he gets better he will light it up!
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Nope, either you pay Dragic now or you pay Kyle in 2 years.

    Dragic is more skilled, taller, more athletic, better court vision, has a better attitude, and can beat his man off the bounce, all while being able to keep people in front of him.

    Lowry is good, but Dragic is just better.

    If you want to win, you keep the better player, period.

    DD
     
  8. Shroopy2

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    So then there's hate
     
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    u so crazy
     
  10. sammy

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    Umm no its not even that close.

    AB had weeks to months to get back in sync. Lowry was in hospital for a couple of weeks and lost weight. You can't compare that to an ankle sprain.

    Do you remember AB going like 1-10 like clockwork once he returned? He was like 2-17 in the two games against the Rockets. He became a true scrub which is why he isn't in the NBA right now.
     
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    All this nonsense about Lowry performing bad coming back from injury is unwarranted. The first game he came back, he almost single-handily got the team back down from a major deficit caused by the first unit. The blame Lowry is getting for the downslide in the past three weeks is ridiculous, and people start making wild acussations about "bad mojo" or his attitude with McHale being the reason for the slide. Please. He was surprisingly good all things considered.

    Dragic was just better than Lowry before the slide, and he's alot more exciting to watch given the nature of his uptempo/flashier style of play.
     
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    I think it's all about short term memories, "what have you done for me lately" attitudes, and last but not least, personal agendas.
     
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    It's like twilight up in this B for some. I'm on Team Lowry and Dragic. I'll glady take neither if it means we net Deron Williams.
     
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    WHat have you done for me latley attitide. He should of just sat out the whole season then trying to make a come back and messing up our chemistry....
     
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    Like never being able to let an argument go on clutchfans. Not naming names or anything.
     
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    Despite the slide in the last few weeks and the fact that he wasnt 100%, he was a major upgrade in all areas from Boykins and Fortson.
     
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    I agree with this 100%.

    But, this statement is too simplistic. Two main reasons: 1) There is a salary cap, which artificially keeps team budgets low (especially under the new CBA) and 2) To win in the NBA, you need at least 1 superstar, 5 quality starters, and 3 good bench players.

    These two reasons mean that you don't simply maximize talent at each position as you suggest. Instead, you need to maximize talent per dollar spent since every team is going to be fairly close in terms of overall salaries. That means you need good value contracts. There are basically 3 types of contracts that provide good dollar value: 1) max superstars, 2) players on their rookie contracts, and 3) players who broke out after their second contracts (e.g. Lowry). Superstars and rookie contract salaries are artificially depressed by the CBA. Non-superstar players (especially UFAs) that break out before their contracts (e.g. Dragic) have salaries set by the market, which are either fair value or even over valued. If Dragic turns out to be a superstar, then taking him now over Lowry is the way to go. If not, we'll get what we pay for, which isn't as good as with Lowry who we know will give us more than what we pay him. But that's why he's a good trade chip if we can land a superstar somehow or a high pick and we can get Dragic without paying too much (7mil per seems like a good deal, but probably unrealistic).

    If there were no salary cap, then you're right, you should just keep the better player period (regardless of their salary) provided your owner has deep pockets. This is the difference between MLB and the NBA. That's why MLB has teams like the Yankees where their highest paid player gets as much as the entire Royals roster. In the NBA, it's about value.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Nah, just a more realistic viewpoint of his SHORTcomings.

    DD
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Teams that constantly get rid of their best players are not moving in the right direction, they FIND A WAY to keep them.

    Look at Dallas, it took them years to get over the blunder of losing Nash.

    Hopefully Morey learns from their mistake.

    DD
     

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