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What's with all the McGrady love now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DcProWLer277, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

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    even if tmac is somehow miraculously able to return back to form physically and get back the rhythm in his shot, play hard on D, and hustle up and down the floor - he is never going to run adelman's offense and end his ballstopping ways...

    so for me there's just no point in keeping any hope of him ever being a part of any title-contending team in houston.......if not before the season begins, then i hope he's traded before the deadline in feb...
     
  2. thacabbage

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    You just don't get it, do you? It's not even about the fact that you are more whimsical than most pre-teens. That could be somewhat tolerable if it weren't for the fact that you make it a point to beat home your opinion to the tune of 30 posts/thread on whatever is your pet issue for the week until the entire well is sucked dry and no one else is any longer willing to dig through 23 pages of crap. If that weren't bad enough, you exercise literally zero discretion with regard to your thought process - have you already forgotten about 'Cartergate' barely two weeks ago when you b****ed and moaned to the tune of 1000 posts that Morey had "fell asleep at the wheel SHEESH DANGIT, DD" choosing to ignore that he just might have a bit more insight than any of us do. (You conveniently let that be swept under the rug after Yao's injury was revealed though.) To top it all off, when you are called out on your incoherence, instead of owning up sensibly, you cling to your infallibility in the face of "changing circumstances" or whatever chic phrase comes to mind at the time.

    It's literally, mind numbingly excruciating. And I'm being kind.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Ok, when you come into a thread, and make it about a person, and not the topic - something you consistently whined about previously, it is basically adding to the problem.

    Yes, I was upset that the Rockets did not go after Vince Carter, but I did not know that Yao was going to be out for the year.

    Yes, Morey knew more about the situation and made the right play, yes I was wrong about him being asleep at the wheel...

    And I admitted it, a lot......not sure what more I can do?

    Yep, I am a passionate fan, yes I do post a lot, too much, I completely concede that fact, but I am also here slugging it out day in and day out, posting in a respectful manner trying to help make this a fun and unique place to be.

    There are many different types of fans Cabbage, there are those that wear their emotions on the sleeve (Obviously me) there are those that are more laid back and think things through, there are casual fans, there are Yao fans, there are Tracy fans, there are old time fans who come here for news.

    We are all here for the same reason, the Houston Rockets, we are one big Rocket's family, we are not all going to get along or agree, but at least we could be adults and be respectful of each other.

    I honestly don't mind if someone has a different opinion, but when they come into threads and do not contribute to the topic but are basically in there to snipe at a particular poster, it is part of the overall problem, and when it is a "Clutch Crew" member, it sets a bad precedent overall, IMO.

    If I bug you guys that much put me on ignore, it is really pretty simple.

    And FYI Cabbage, most of the time when I get locked in and post a lot in a thread it is an argument with a poster or two, and you do the EXACT SAME THING (you and D.o.D, are doing it in this thread)........now, clearly, I do it more than most, but please understand I am not the only one in the boat holding a dirty oar......

    DD
     
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  4. kenwonobi

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    We should see at least what kind of Tmac comes out of rehabilitation before we make any judgements on him. He could be integral to our future in more ways than just letting him play. He could be trade baite or free agent money. Who knows what he brings as of right now.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    where is Pryuen btw? really miss this guy's post :)
     
  6. motionsiknes

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    Originally Posted by DaDakota
    Wafer is more efficient as a scorer than TMac is, he was a better shooter.....44% overall and 40% from 3pt range...that is pretty darned good, actually it is close to great....


    Did DaDakota really say that? I mean we are talking about Tmac's 08-09 season which totally makes sense. But if we are comparing Wafer's 08-09 season vs all of Tmac's career, then that is absurd logic. If DD really say that, then i lost respect for him
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Of course I said it and of course I was talking about Tmac now........I was trying to show people that as flawed as Von is, he was really good at scoring the ball, something this team really needs from the Wing position.

    DD
     
  8. daywalker02

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    that is legit but I think he used too small a sample for that. IMO it is a lil bit farfetched to compare him and tracy talentwise. He did it by showcasing their shooting percentage though.
    You have to include tmac's contested shots and his sudden heat checks.
    As for Tracy's unability to defer to Adelman's motion offense, am I the only one that remembers Tmac actually doing well during the streak in RA's offense when he was HEALTHY and MOTIVATED.
     
  9. worzel gummidge

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    Unlike T-Cancer all Rockets fans have at least some love for Cat...

    Trade T-Cancer for Mobley + filler.

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nba/090722_mobley_ponders_nba_return
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Actually if you look it up Tmac struggled mightily during that streak, shot a very low percentage etc....but he did try to play within the system.

    The problem is that he has had amazing success playing basketball his way, individual success anyway, and it is very hard for a leopard to change his spots.

    Tmac is talented enough physically, I am just not willing to bet he is talented enough mentally.

    DD
     
  11. daywalker02

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    btw it is very good indeed during the stretch of games but not great. Tony Parkers of the league shoot around 50 percent.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I would call that level...elite.....and can only dream of that on this team from the guard/wing position.

    DD
     
  13. daywalker02

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    I will always root for Tmac beside Yao, Luis and Shane and the whole team. The thing is if it depended on me I would give him a chance to prove himself. I am with Dr. Dunk when it comes down to his good and his bad. I know Tmac turned out to be no leader with his immense talent but I will take him over Wafer any day of the week. Wafer is not dumb but he seems to me like an ill disciplined player that struggles to turn the corner.
    Back to Tmac, I trust Morey in this matter.
     
  14. motionsiknes

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    Alright then. My bad then. Most of the time I don't agree with your opinion but i do feel the same that Tmac take ill-advised shots (below the 3point line midrange) and those heat checks. Those aren't very smart.

    But yeah I love Wafer. I think everbody loves Wafer. I bet Morey does. IMHO, Wafer might have more scoring success with a high percentage than Tmac if both players play this season. The only issue is it worth offering a bigger contract for an athlete coming with baggage. I took that Adelman-Wafer issue very seriously. It is very rare those kind of situations happen in the NBA. It seems like Wafer has a very serious attitude problem.
     
  15. Rocket Guy

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    tmac will be an all star again this year. he will average at least 23 ppg and we will win 50 games again. Then we will get yao back a week or two before the season ends and stoll through the playoffs because Kobe breaks his wrist and cannot play, Tony Parker blows out his knee so the spurs will underacheive.

    Clock me out!
     
  16. daywalker02

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    the thing is you don't hand a long term contract to wafer like that with all the uncertainties. If it was really about improving his game, he would not care about money so much. But ok with me, test the FA market as long as you like, Von.
    I am sure we will be having a scorer by next year. Have patience or die trying.
     
  17. amaru

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    Its simple.

    For all the hate that "he who shall not be named" receives he is this teams best shot at having a winning season this year.

    If healthy of course.
     
  18. SmoothOperator

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    Why not show us by example what you mean by posting more efficiently?
     
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  19. moestavern19

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    That DoD beatdown is hands down the post of the year.

    Wow. I'm crying over here.

    Its really amazing how many Respected vets, intelligent posters and even moderators have "personal agendas" against DD.

    Can't be anything about his style.

    But he did give Clutch a computer once.
     
  20. goodbug

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    OK, TMac is H1N1, very contagious in terms of no defense.

     

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