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What's with all the McGrady love now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DcProWLer277, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. TheFreak

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    I wish all McGrady threads would get moved to the NBA Dish.
     
  2. yuisakata

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    If you know Morey and his Moneyball principles, you know that won't happen unless Morey's no longer the GM because the one thing Moneyball aims to do is to stay competitive/contender perennially. And yes, Yao and Mac are Carroll Dawson's legacies so just give Morey some time to make it work the Moneyball way.

    Remember what Les said when he promoted Morey to the GM? He believed his new GM would start a revolution in managing professional sports teams, and revolutions typically go against the traditional way of thinking/doing things, such as the above post.
     
  3. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

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    Hmmm......"Mavericks stall Rockets in Game 7, cruise to 116-76 rout"

    "Although McGrady finished with 27 points, he shot 10-of-26 while trying to force the Rockets back into it."
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I believe I said it D.O.D, that the situation with him changed because Yao was out, so now, might as well see what is left in the tank.

    Because if Yao was still here and healthy, I would have unloaded him for lesser players and draft picks.

    Pretty clear really.

    What do you say on the thread topic?

    DD
     
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  5. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

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    Maybe that day will come sooner that later...
     
  6. TMac4Life#1

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    Its in the past let it go!!!

    But since you brought it up might as well talk about it. I hate when guys bring this up as an argument. Yeah you bring up one guys stat line but what did the other 11 guys do?? did they show up?? Mind me the Refs weren't calling a fair series. Let it go.

    McGrady's playoff performance speaks for itself. Its just that he hasn't had the luck of advancing when playing.
     
  7. Dr of Dunk

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=4425257&postcount=220

    You were pretty clear there, too. You're pretty clear everytime you change your opinion. Want me to dig up more? :D

    Flip... flop...

    You'll have to ask the people that love him - I can't speak for them. I already provided my opinion of the board in general. Now back to your flip-flops...
     
  8. legend215

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    I wish all McGrady threads got moved to www.t-mac.com where they truly belong LOL

    Seriously, I think the one word that hip-hop unleashed upon the mainstream that needs to be retired is the word "haters"

    Whenever someone has something rational (or sometimes irrational) to say about Tracy they get labeled as haters and more than likely get called a few other immature names by Tracy McGrady.....wait for it......"Lovers"

    I get the feeling that most people who embrace the Rockets as a team and are tired of the same old McGrady arguments from his lovers are tired of it and choose not to get involved.

    DD has it right when he says that Tracy's style of play is not a winning one and contrary to all of the excuses people come up with, the record speaks for itself.

    I for one am praying that Morey can find a deal before the season starts so that we can have a clean training camp and start of season.

    There's also another side of me that'll hate the day that he's out of here because then we can look forward to 4 or 5 new threads per game he plays in showing his stats all saying "see, see, we could have used that tonight"
     
  9. AntiSonic

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    The TOFs are all on summer vacation now, that's all.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Yeah, shocking that I would change my opinion because the team's situation changed.....

    I mean who would EVER adjust their thinking once the entire team's outlook was radically alterred?

    Oh wait, any sane person would.

    And I still want him gone, only now...I want it later in the year....SHEESH !


    Really great, thanks for leading the way with class and really HELPING to improve the GARM....

    Great job !

    not.

    It would be nice to see you posting in the GARM again.....about basketball.

    DD
     
  11. Rox11

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    Maybe cause deep down yall like him??? I could imagine it now....when he comes back and hopefully dominates you guys will start cheering for him again. He has done so much to the Rockets without Yao and such.

    A set of pics and yall like him again...imagine him when he comes back healthy and strong :cool:

    You guys dont really hate him do ya? :)
     
  12. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

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    Mentally he is weak and what if he does come back and averages 30 points a game and drags us to a 8th seed playoff berth, would you be happy? At this point I really don't know myself.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    if he is really mentally weak, he would have retired already after the embarrassing play he displayed last year, esp. with that dunk.
     
  14. Old Man Rock

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    The fact is a healthy McGrady with the right attitude is far better than what we can get for him.

    Is that the Mcgrady we will get back this year?

    Your guess is as good as mine but if you are like me and believed there was much more going on with Tmac last season than an injury that you can see there are real reasons for hope.

    I felt for what ever reason Mcgrady dogged it last year. It could have been as simple as just being a bit lazy last off season and not wanting to do all the work and then that snowballed into a poor start and self doubt. Or maybe he came into camp out of shape and then there was some criticism of his dedication which spilled over into the locker room with other players and Mcgrady became disenchanted with the team and a sudden excuse of being physically unable to play. But of course when he heard he might be traded he decided his injury was more serious then he had said before and announced he needed surgery.

    All of that was primadonna Tmac and why should anyone expect it to be different this year. One obvious reason is money. Never doubt the power of greed and money to motivate anyone. Tmac is no dfferent than most people and knows this is a contract year and a poor performance would be a major setback in getting a decent contract. He sees how AI's attitude has cost him millions. How Marbury can't find a job. How teams are only spending money on the elite players. That's why he hired a trainer and is working harder than ever. He already says he is further along than last year at this time. So expect Tmac to come back in the best of shape ready to play his best and perform at a higher level. His eyes see the outcome if he doesn't, loss of big bucks.

    Second Tmac is rid of his biggest locker room headache, Artest. Yes Artest called out Tmac several times and you can bet he hated it. The general consensus is what's been reported is just the tip of the glass. I expect that to be true and Tmac clashed with several players in the locker room but mostly Artest and Artest is the one player Tmac would lose too in a clash. So Tmac wimped out and quit on the team. Well Artest is gone and now Tmac can come back and make some ammends with his teammates and start playing again.

    Third Tmac will finally play the game Adelman wants. Yeah I know Tmac lovers will cry what are you talking about, Tmac was the best passer on the team. But Tmac ran the team how he saw fit, jacking up shots when he wanted to and then making great passes when they opened up. That's not Adelmans offense. Adelman believes you take whats available if it is not immediately available you pass to someone and let them make that decision sometimes it is pass, pass, pass but not dribble, dribble look for your shot if it is not there dribble some more and then make a spectacular pass or forced shot. So I expect Tmac will run Adelmans offense more closer than he ever has. Quite frankly he has no choice. If he doesn't he will sit like Marbury did in NY. The last thing Tmac can afford to do is sit in a contract. Expect Tmac to be a boy scout most of the year if he is not stupid.

    Finally Tmac will be more focused and committed than he has ever been because seeing is believing. Stupid comments like I have never had the players around me. I have never had a Shaq or Duncan or just stupid things to say but maybe he believed that. But it is quite obvious now this team has the type of hard working players that you can build around a star to compete. Tmac believed his team had no chance without him and could never beat the Lakers who he predicted to win it all. But the fact is he witnessed there grit and determination and hard play can go far. The Rockets can win a championship without him with Yao. ANd maybe the Rockets can win a championship with him if he plays hard. Either way he knows the excuse of not having enough talent around him is over. Going 7 against the Lakers without him proved that. So I expect he will want to prove that the Rockets are even better with him and that this team can finally get him out of the first round. Expect as much.
     
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  15. TMac4Life#1

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    Well knowing some people on here they are going to cheer for him because he is raising his trade value. To them the better he plays the better the value he gets were as the better chance the Rockets have in trading him.
     
  16. Shaud

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    Lost me at the Jerome James comparison.
     
  17. DcProWLer277

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    "He's gotta feed his kids" and I never said he was stupid.
     
  18. Dr of Dunk

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    Right... because now it's not better for his fans for him to just move on. All the stuff he apparently was wrecking the Rockets with have changed now. And by the way, that post was made before Yao went out, so don't try that cop-out. SHEESH !

    Don't talk class. GARM was always about backing up what you say. If you're going to say it... back it up, because you own it.

    Like when you talked about Budinger immediately after he was drafted and without seeing anything more than a video or two of him said "Not impressed". Now you're riding him like you're calling the next great player. This is how GARM used to be before you made it your personal blog. You get called out if you post stuff - it's not about class (which I guess is the next banner you're flying), it's about not making wild-ass statements with every change in wind direction without being able to back it up. If you want this to be your personal media outlet, you'll be called out for the opinions you take. Get used to it.
     
  19. dachuda86

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    we want to see him play well and hard... doesn't matter about the other stuff.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    he isn't latrell bro. there's some pride with this guy. obviously he wants another contract, but he knows he will never get another MAX contract. at this stage, it's proving he's still an elite player, along with getting that big contract. tracy's always belong in the conversation as a top 10 player, he fell off big time last year. he knows that.
     

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