What's the difference between this ROx and JVG's ROX?

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u underestimate that 05 team man. if we have this yao on that 05 team, we could be CHAMPIONS.

plus u forgot about landry, scola, and brooks.

 

I agree.

JVG is stupid for not playing Brooks, Landry and Scola last year.

 

it's his fault that vspan didn't become ginobili!

 

How about Novak. He never gave him a chance.

 

WE're better than those teams offensively. Besides Yao and TMac, who could create their own offenses on those JVG squads?? Scola, Bonzi, Brooks, can all do tha damn thing!! lol.


PLus they'll all get better as tha season progresses.


Scola>Howard
Landry>Hayes
Bonzi is goin to be big in tha 'offs.

 

The difference: JVG would let Yao foul out Bogut when Bogut plays aggressive defense like that. Aldeman would let Bogut dominate Yao, when he only let Yao shot 10 times, 3 of those were from offensive rebounds.

 

Now that's a bunch of bull right there.

 

PLz JVG would've tooken Yao out after a performance like that.


Adelman was tryin to let Yao rebound from a bad performance but Yao jsut wsn't up task.


Think before you come outta pocket, YOF!!!!

 

i said last year....

this year, the teams are so evenly matched, if you can beat one you can beat them all. if we get out of the first round i dont see any reason why we couldnt reach the finals. no one is safe, there wont be any easy series wins this year no matter how high your seed.

but of course right now im just worried about MAKING the playoffs.

 

Steve Novak under JVG through 2/2/07 - 21 games, 6.2 MPG

Steve Novak under Adelman through 2/2/08 - 7 games, 9.3 MPG

 

I say the difference is pretty obvious.

JVG tells our role players "don't shoot unless you have to. Trust in Yao and Tmac only"

Adleman tells our role players "get out there and shoot the ball. There are five of you out there, there's no reason to not contribute."

 

Not quite so obvious really.

Last year, T-Mac/Yao combined took 35.2% of the team's FGAs.

This year, T-Mac/Yao combined take 34.7% of the team's FGAs.

 

Yes. But there are more options now off the bench now. Novak is the the fifth or sixth option off the bench. The Rockets didn't have this bench last year.

Look, my point is this. Adelman has a better bench this year that JVg ever had. But JVG was also his own enemy. He admittedly has never liked rookies. He had a quarrel with Bonzi that he made personal and never let him play. Do you really think that Van Gundy would have played Landry and Brooks the same minutes as adelman has? I really don't think so. He would have played Scola but probably not Landry. I don't know this for sure but I have a strong feeling on this. He would have stuck with hayes and Scola. Novak has played pretty much the same minutes under adelman as he did with Van Gundy but he is way more down on the rockets bench order under adelman.

 

Argue all you want, Novak received far more in game opportunities under JVG than he has so far under Adelman. That is a fact.

And with this list of rookies, who could blame him?

Lavor Postell - sucked
Mirsad Turkcan - sucked
John Wallace - solid player (played regularly his rookie year under JVG)
Walter McCarty - sucked
Torraye Braggs - sucked
Brandin Knight - sucked
Andre Barrett - sucked
John Lucas III - sucked
Stephen Graham - sucked
Lonny Baxter - sucked
Chuck Hayes - solid player (played regularly his rookie year under JVG)
Vassilis Spanoulis - sucked
Steve Novak - jury still out, but so far, he sucks
Luther Head - solid player (played regularly his rookie year under JVG)

Bonzi was, out of shape, oft injured and a malcontent. None of that is JVG's fault.

This year, Francis is out of shape, oft injured and a malcontent (at least earlier this year). I don't see any of you guys, who blame the Bonzi fiasco on JVG, blaming Adelman for Francis' disappointing year thus far.

Assuming he would or would not have is pure speculation. The best 3 rookies JVG ever had, arguably, were Head, John Wallace and Chuck Hayes and all were part of his rotation their rookie years.

Don't act like Landry was a regular rotation member the whole season, putting up poor #s while Adelman nursed him into the contributor he is today.
Landry had 15 straight DNPs until Adelman gave him a shot against the TWolves, and Landry came through big with 15 pts and 11 rebs. That is how most rookie/coach relationships work. You get a shot to break the rotation every so often, you make the most of it, and then you start playing regularly. That is exactly what happened with Landry.

 

Hence, a chicken or the egg argument. Did these rookies suck because they suck? Or because JVG didn't develop them enough?

We can't see the process, but rather only the final product when they go out on the court. But JVG's track record of developing young players, whether it's his fault or not, has sucked.

Those numbers are skewed by injuries to either of those two. So some adjustments has to be made to it.

It seems to me that the Rockets offense, unlike JVG years, can operate pretty smoothly without T-Mac inititating the offense. I still remember those ugly games when we couldn't do jack when T-Mac was out.

But when T-Mac is in the game, the offense looks pretty similar to the past.

 

Exactly!! Adelman nursed him along. JVG would have yanked the bottle from him much sooner.

 

Man, you are brutal. Laughed so hard I spat toothpaste.

 

Look at their careers. Most of those guys only played a few seasons and never accomplished anything after their rookie years, even when they weren't playing under JVG.

I can't wait for you to say that JVG ruined all of those guys careers. Go ahead. Say it!

So are you assuming that any and all players on a roster in the NBA can be developed with the right coaching?

Fine, I'll do the work to disprove the point that you couldn't have proven, had you done the research on your own:

In the games that both Yao/McGrady played in 06/07, they took 45.5% of the total shots.

In the games that both Yao/McGrady have played in 07/08, they have taken 44.7% of the total shots.

 

LOL!!!

15 straight DNPs is not nursing someone along. That is forgetting you left your kid @ home alone while you are out boozing it up @ the local watering hole, only to have your wife show up to let you know that you missed your kids first step because you were drunk off your ass.