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Whats The Difference Between Collusion Talk And Counterfeit Votes Talk?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Nov 20, 2020.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Thats why i continually said everyone needed to get off that story
     
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    One is real and one is not...
     
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    One says Russia interfered and Trump did nothing to stop and the other is that American Democracy is dead.
     
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Interference happened not collusion
     
  5. Ubiquitin

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    Russia are you listening
     
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    Trump supporters sure like their what-about-ism. Both teams played hard.
     
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    Procedurally they are different, in that seeking help from a foreign entity in elections is a specific type of crime (a federal crime, I believe) whereas voter fraud (which can be carried out in different ways) varies in how it is defined and punished state-by-state. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

    Most importantly, though, the two issues that the OP is referring to are different in that one is true and actually happened, and one is false and no evidence has been provided to prove it has happened.

    btw anybody remember when Trump repeated over and over that millions of votes were fraudulently cast in 2016 and he created a commission to investigate it and then quietly dissolved it when they found no such fraud? Yeah. But this time, he's totally telling the truth.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Sorry.
     
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  9. CometsWin

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    The difference is facts.
     
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  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So its a fact Trump colluded? I don't blame people for believing our intelligence, it was still a stupid story. Yes Russia tried to interfere, Trunp colluding with them was a giant leap

    Stop talking like it wasn't investigated and not proven. No proof
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Democrats have no moral high ground on Trump's attempt to decertify the election.
     
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    The issues are not related. One is a media hoax while the other is legitimate while facing a media cover up.
     
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  13. CometsWin

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    I can't discuss this with you because like all of the topics you try to discuss, you're completely ignorant of the facts and rely on barbershop level common sense to dictate your responses. Not only that, you consistently refuse to read the facts provided to you because you don't have the intellectual integrity to actually read material that disproves your barbershop common sense.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Stop. The Trump team will not argue fraud in court in fear of going to jail for lying
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Can you answer if collusion is a fact? TIA
     
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    I think the Trump legal team will argue whatever they need to in order to get to the bottom of the election irregularities. Not sure what semantic game you think is afoot, but it little matters when there were tons of issues with this election and tons of eye witness testimonies (countless affidavits) and video/written evidence that calls the pre-certified election "results" into question.
     
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    one you can defend thru immunity the other you can't
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Whatever they tell you they will not say in court because they are lying to you. Thats not semantics.

    Why wont they repeat in court what they say in press conferences?
     
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    Defending against foreign interference and our election process. Bipartisan congressional and gop led special council investigations.

    Delegitimizing our election process and attempted coup. By the crazy and crazier.
     

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