And the Chinese taught the Japanese how to use chopsticks. Samsung was the Haier 15 years ago. I bought one for my undergrad dorm at the time. Samsung and LG were the lowest priced in the shop. Look at them now. Ok, I am not saying everybody should buy a Haier TV. But I just find what you said very amusing.
Dude, Samsung's LCDs are very nice tvs and Samsung has been the electronics biz for awhile. I've seen the Haier TVs. its not going to be Samsung in 15 years. Its going to be the Walmart cheap brand next to Akai and Vizio. On top of that, let's not forget Pioneer, Panasonic, Toshiba, Sharp Haier is not going to move 'higher'.
And the Americans taught the Japanese and Germans to make cars. your point? The Americans taught the Japanese to make game systems and tvs too. I think people in China, if they had a choice between a Sony HDTV and a Haier TV, its not even close. Sony. its not about nationalism. its about having the better product.
nah, Haier is cheaper in China. most people go for cheap and good stuff. Haier is not that bad actually. i have used some of their other electronics, they were pretty good. i would buy a Haier TV if i can find one locally. maybe i will buy one off Amazon or something.
probably Sony. but it's also twice as expensive. a lot people won't be able to afford it. Haier makes very good frig, washing machine, etc. i think they just got in TV business later and not as good yet. i heard that they even opened factories in US. some of the stuff they sell here are assembled in US actually.
yeah, well Yao's salary is probably more than twice as Shawn Bradleys. you get what you pay for Haier's competition is not Sony, Panasonic etc its Akai, Emerson, Vizio, Funai, Polariod, Westinghouse as Yallmean may have deemed Haier the next Samsung, I'm deeming it the next Emerson. plus, i work in the electronics industry, I was probably one of the first people in the US to see a Haier TV. They show up at CES every year (biggest electronics show in the world). Their booth is next to Polaroid, Akai etc (the cheap brands). They had NBA players to sign autographs. in their booth, you can tell nobody cared about the products. but when you go to Sony or Samsung's booth, people are looking at their products cause they are innovative. The partnership with the NBA is probably more beneficially outside the US since the NBA is so popular. But to say in 15 years they will be of the same reputation as Samsung, I'm betting against it.
well, you never know. anything can happen. they are just targeting a different customer base. i don't think they are trying to compete with Sony and such. like i said, i wouldn't buy one unless i see one in store and see if it's worth the money saved.
I still remember like 30 years old, people in Asia avoided Japanese products like they were STD (yes I exaggerated, but you got the point). The label 'Made in Japan' at that time were translated to 'cheap but easily broken in pieces'. Improvement in product quality takes time. No one can tell which part of the world will produce the best electronic products 30 years later. It's naive to make the assertion that one would never be able to catch up with the other.
I can tell you now that that Haier TVs aren't near the quality of Sony. Its about innovation and quality. Innovation, Sony already has a OLED TV in production. Does Haier have that? Sony built its reputation on quality tvs. Trinitron, Wega, now the Bravia. They come up with the innovations like the 120hz, the Bluray player. Electronics is about leadership and trust. so mr 'severexpert' tell me, how in a business that's been established for many years, the television industry, makes you think that Haier with no clear innovations, only a marketing campaign with the NBA (which I think none of the NBA players actually own a haier tv) will defeat Sony or Samsung or Panasonic? hell or even Vizio? its 'naive' to go against someone who's in the electronics industry.
no one is saying Haier is better than Sony. but who knows what happens in the future. 20 years ago, if you asked anyone that China is going to be like today, they would probably look at you funny. i mean, people were smashing Japanese cars with baseball bats at first. now everyone wants to buy Japanese cars.
dude, people who worked at Ford and GM smashing Japanese cars don't count! No disputes that China will be the biggest economy, the question is whether when people in China have lots of money and choice, what will they choose? Quality is ultimately the biggest factor and in the electronics industry, you can't afford to make bad products. see Zenith.
well, consider a lot people in China already buys Chinese made electronics now, it wouldn't surprise me that they will do the same in the future. it's not like Chinese governments are going to stay the same forever. if they want to make money, they better bring some competition. and it's more likely that Chinese people will stay with Chinese brand if the competition is closer. of course, they are not going to buy crap even if it's MIC. but remember though, there are a lot of nationalism against Japanese made product. which i think it's stupid, but it nonetheless exists. so the key is, what will the Chinese companies do in the future.
the nationalism thing is stupid. think about video games, what's the best fighting game? Its Street Fighter. Everyone in the world plays Street Fighter, its made by the Japanese. The US comes up with Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter is still the best game in the world. And people still play it, World Wide. see my point? when it comes to products instead of people, quality wins always.
30 years ago, people in Asia would pay big bucks for TVs made in Europe ( I think they craved for German TVs at that time) and the US. And they would buy Japanese TVs only if they couldn't afford the more expensive ones or simply just didn't want to spare the extra money for a better TV. The Japanese, by manufacturing the low cost and lesser quality products, slowly got rich. As their economy started booming, the cost of production also began to increase. Therefore, just like what the other industrialized countries had gone through, they had to move up to produce higher end products, and let the other Asian countries with cheaper labor cost take their place to be the lower-end manufacturers. But, also because of the money that they made from being the lower-end manufacturer before, the Japanese had the capital to invest in R&D. Gradually they became the leader in electronics today. No one can say for sure whether another country will follow the exact path. And I don't deny there may be other factors which accounted for the Japanese story. But to say this it will not happen to someone else in 30 years is naive. The truth is that no one knows.
this is an NBAtv. its from hannspree. they sell them in the NBA Store in NYC and I'm pretty sure I saw GP using one on play-by-play broadcast
I wonder if Hanspree will make any more of these themed tvs for the nba since haier has the marketing contract? i know hanspree makes all these themed tvs.
you know everything, tinman. you bless every thread with your knowledge. thank you for your contributions
