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What's funny about being a Community Organizer

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 4, 2008.

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  1. SWTsig

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    my sentiments exactly. i just don't see how anyone who considers themselves a true, life long conservative can look at what GOP has become and continue to support them... they've moved so far from their political roots it's atrocious.

    i definitely enjoyed watching her speak, but she's already proving to me that she's just more of the same from the republican party.
     
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    I don't believe that. She did what was she was expected to do, just as Huckabee did. That's why I am so jazzed for 2012. There are a ton of new wave conservatives and moderate conservatives coming in to replace the old guard that has ruined the GOP.

    She has all that Hillary had to offer without any of Hillary's horrific negatives. Palin so far has shown she is tough, smart and obviously adept with a verbal gun or knife -- Hippolyta with a smile.
     
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    but i fail to see how you can so unequivocally believe that when we know practically nothing on this woman... nevermind the fact that she's currently under investigation in alaska.

    dont be so quick to appoint this unknown woman the savior of the republican party when she's been in the spotlight for less than a week.
     
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    We have four years to find out, and I surely hope I'm around long enough to see how it all plays out. However, my gut hunch says that Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty et al will re-engerize the GOP. As I said, I'm jazzed.
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    I hope they do.
     
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    Appears to be a moot point, but they've mentioned on more than one network that these communities he helped are mostly boarded-up and vacant now.

    I think that from his memoir, this falls into the chronological period of a self-admitted hard core drug phase.

    Where's the truth?



    When my mom passed away, and I didn't work for a year to spend time with my dad, I didn't hide it on my resume. In fact my resume said as much (back when it was necessary to explain the lapse of time in order to get employed). I gladly give up info on my "down time" now as well. Just did...
     
  7. SWTsig

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    give it rest, man. he was a community organizer in chicago more than 20 years ago. but here you go:

    what a b*stard that obama is !
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Um, no. Why don't you try reading it yourself.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Maybe he was organizing supply chains for cocaine importing cartels on the south side of Chicago.


    Last night's quote was greatness:
    Obama's literary accomplishments:
    MEMOIRS: 2
    MEANINGFUL LAWS: 0
     
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    This quote , and this post are pure greatness

    They illustrate what Republicans think of a lot of the laws he did work on at the state and federal level - unneccesary and useless and not meaningful

    Among the laws he passed in IL was a major ethics and campaign finance bill

    The Republican answer is that this is meaningless and something to be discarded and laughed at.

    Among the laws he passed in IL was a state EITC to benefit the working poor.

    The Republican answer is that this is meaningless and something to be discarded and laughed at.

    Among the laws he passed in IL was a bill to videotape police confessions to prevent the rash of coercive confessions which resulted on innocent people being put on death row

    The Republican answer is that this is meaningless and something to be discarded and laughed at.

    These laws aren't very sexy - it's no POW camp and it's not "stopping the bridge to nowhere" which you were for before you were against - they're just part of the everyday business of governing. But the Republicans want us to think that these kinds of things don't matter.

    Well they are wrong. They do matter. I don't want to live in a society where these things don't matter and where we just say "f-k it" and give up. If that's the society that one wants, one should join the anarchists protesting in Minnesota because thats the same philosophy.

    As we saw in New Orleans in 2005 and in the bungled rebuilding of Iraq, the bridge collapse in Minnesota due to the nation's decaying infrastructure, and in the asleep-at-the-wheel regulators while subprime disaster awaited, Having people in charge who think that laws and regulations and government programs can just run themselves or not be run it all has dangerous consequences that cost lives and money.

    The absence of government is not a plan in and of itself, and we've had to deal with the consequences over the last 8 years (or more so if you want to include the entirety of the Reagan Revolution) - and I don't feel very optimistic about the place that they have put us.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    verbal lashing
     
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    If random outlandish rumors about Palin are sexist, I'm going to call outlandish rumors about Obama racist. So there.
     
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    Wonderful, wonderful post.
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    It's the work of The_Conquistador. Of course it's greatness.

    Now this is the height of irony. How ethical is it Sam, to go back on your word and reject public financing after saying you'd take it? Wow, now that flies back in your face doesn't it? The bill you are lifting up on high has been summarily dismissed and ignored by your flippin and a-floppin candidate. OUCH.
    His law resulted in innocent people being put on death row? WHAT? omg that's just an epic failure of an argument. Where were you going with that Sam? FLUMMOXED


    Right, they are part of what a young, inexperienced, junior politician would do an a regular basis. They are NOT the work of a man ready to be President, that's for sure. This is like a bullpen catcher saying he's ready to catch Josh Beckett in the World Series. PURE FOLLY

    It's been at its worst during the reign of the do-nothing, Democrat-controlled Congress. That sure is a burr in your boot, ain't it Sam?

    I'm just whippin your man tittays all over the place today.

    OWNED
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    Please Hammer, don't hurt em.
     
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    Obama today:

    I would argue that doing work in the community, to try to create jobs, to bring people together, to rejeuvenate communities that have fallen on hard times, to set up job training programs in areas that have been hard-hit when the steel plants close, that that's relevant only in understanding where I'm coming from, who I believe in, who I'm fighting for, and why I'm in this race. And the question I have for them is, why would that kind of work be ridiculous? Who are they fighting for? What are they advocating for? Do they think that the lives of those folks who are struggling each and every day, that working with them to try to improve their lives is somehow not relevant to the Presidency? I think maybe that's the problem. That's part of why they're out of touch and they don't get it, because they haven't spent much time working on behalf of those folks.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    ACtually a guy who's been in the Senate as long as Biden, only has a networth of 150K, takes the train home from DC to his family in Delaware almost every night is far from the poster child of same old Washington politics. He's someone that has experience but isn't the stereotypical Washington insider.
     
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    (different video than you've seen me post.. Hammer related, and funny!)
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  19. FranchiseBlade

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    It was still a struggle to find the money to pay for that, and he had to work hard to earn his acceptance into that as well as Harvard. He wasn't a legacy admission. Obama had to work hard to pay for all of his schooling, and earn his spot in the schools he went to. That's one way that it is more the American dream.
     

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