Experience is something that I never really brought up about Obama, but since "Experience" is spoken about as a qualifier for V.P. or even Pres...It immediately came to mind about what Obama offered...In the attack on Palin's experience as a mayor (which I have heard) and whether who had more Executive level experience, it came to my understanding that Palin offers so much and has demonstrated so much... Now did I say Obama said this, of course not,...but the issue of "Experience" ended up slapping the libs in their face... How long has Obama been a Senator?...What did he authorize at the Executive decision making level?...Before he was a "commuunity planner", what else was he responsible for? I am laughing at the "whoops, I got hit..trying to hit" attack style by the left...
I did not hear Obama's swipe. I did not read it or see it. Again...my problem is not in them attacking one another's resume. My problem is in suggesting that community activism is insignificant. I believe that to be a mistake and I think the GOP will be Goldwatered in 2008.
Its not insignificant for majority of the population, but it should be insignificant when you are running for the president.
This was in direct response to the Obama campaign mocking her small town mayoral experience. She mocked his community organization experience. Not seeing the difference. Are community organizers just considered more sacred than being a small town mayor? Both were in it as a starting point for their careers, and most likely both were in it to do some good. The only difference is that a mayor has more accountability.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/02/obama-i-have-more-executive-experience-than-palin/ "Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin’s town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We’ve got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years,” Obama said. John McCain’s spokesman called the suggestion “laughable.” “For Barack Obama to argue that he’s experienced enough to be president because he’s running for president is desperate circular logic and its laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama’s inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin’s executive experience managing a budget of over $10 billion and more than 24,000 employees,” said spokesman Tucker Bounds.
Well here you go then -- you probably won't 'read it or see it' this time either. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/An_experience_trap.html?showall On Anderson Cooper, Obama compares his executive experience running his presidential campaign — which is for him, McCain and Clinton their longest tenure as executives — to Palin's: “My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We've got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year — we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” he said.
The quote might be hard for some to recognize, because it was butchered by basso. One of his infinite threads had it with the 'uhs'
again, obama never said his experience as community organizer qualifies him to be president, it has never been brought up. palin, rudy, mccain, etc. have been pimping her mayoral experience apples to apples palin got her start in the PTA. everyone gets their start somewhere and lastly, the reason the obama campaign came out with those repsonses, is because another campaign has been making experience an issue
It's not funny and the Republicans are stupid to harp on it as much. It gets a good laugh out of their crowd, but I don't think it plays well with normal people. You know, those same normal people they want to vote for them because Palin is one of them? Something tells me that the average person sees value in community service that the Republicans are dismissing. That said, Obama does make too big of a deal out of his community organizing. He always mentions it several times in his speech saying he fought for the people who lost their jobs. I don't know that community service really is more than a footnote in a campaign; worth talking about in his biography and video introductions, but not worth harping on.
Business International Corporation and New York Public Interest Research Group, Community Orginizer, Harvard Law/writer and editor of Harvard Law Review, associate at Sidley & Austin and Hopkins and Sutter, lecturer University of Chicago Law School and associate at Miner, Barnhill & Galland, state senator 97-04, US senator 04-08. Sports reporter in anchorage, helped in her husband's fishing business, 20% ownership of a car wash, Wasilla city council 92-96, mayor wasilla 96-02, Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, Founds a 527: Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service inc 03-05, governor 06-08. At the time Obama was a community organizer, Palin was in college. But to really match it up, he became a community organizer after he got his first degree, palin was reading the sports news in Anchorage right after college. It is disengenous.
His key components in politics are: 1) Two Years as Senator from Illinois (spent running for President) 2) Ten Years as an Illinois State Senator from Chicago 3) Oversight of a campaign that beat the Clintons Palin impaled him with the line that he was written two books about himself but has never written or proposed any major legislation. That was a stout put-down.
I don't think being the small-town mayor is really a key component of her resume at all? I definitely haven't heard that being touted as much as you say (would be open to see some links). It was brought up first by the Obama campaign. She pointed out at the same time she was first elected mayor of a small town he was a community organizer, and that she had responsibilities (i.e. a job she is held accountable for). I mean as an Obama supporter you really want to argue experience? That just seems like such a poor tactic. Maybe with some effort you could argue Obama has a weensy-teensy-bit more experience than Palin and be correct. You could try to argue that Obama unequivocally has more experience but you would fail. The best you can hope for by questioning Palin's experience is this: Our presidential candidate has a little more experience than the opponent's vice-presidential candidate who we believe is the least qualified VP candidate in our nation's history. Now that's a campaign slogan!
They skip this part Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).[24] In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[12][25] Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[12][26] He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[12] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[12] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.[12] State legislator, 1997–2004 Main article: Illinois Senate career of Barack Obama Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from the 13th District, which then spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[27] Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[28] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[29] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures,[30] and in 2003, Obama sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[29][31] Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, and again in 2002.[32] In 2000, he lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.[33][34] In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[35] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[36] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the US Senate. U.S. Senator, 2005–present Main article: United States Senate career of Barack Obama Obama was sworn in as a senator on January 4, 2005.[49] Obama was the fifth African American Senator in U.S. history, and the third to have been popularly elected.[50] He is the only Senate member of the Congressional Black Caucus.[51] CQ Weekly, a nonpartisan publication, characterized him as a "loyal Democrat" based on analysis of all Senate votes in 2005–2007, and the National Journal ranked him as the "most liberal" senator based on an assessment of selected votes during 2007.[52][53] Legislation Senate bill sponsors Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Obama discussing the Coburn–Obama Transparency Act Senate bill sponsors Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Obama discussing the Coburn–Obama Transparency Act[54] See also: List of bills sponsored by Barack Obama in the United States Senate Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act.[55] In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act.[56] Obama introduced two initiatives bearing his name: "Lugar–Obama," which expanded the Nunn–Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons,[57] and the "Coburn–Obama Transparency Act," which authorized the establishment of www.USAspending.gov, a web search engine.[58] On June 3, 2008, Senator Obama, along with Senators Carper, Coburn and McCain, introduced follow-up legislation: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008.[59] Obama sponsored legislation requiring nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks.[60] In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.[61] In January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007.[62] He introduced S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections.[63] Obama also introduced the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007. [64] Later in 2007, Obama sponsored an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges.[66] He sponsored the "Iran Sanctions Enabling Act" supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry, and co-sponsored legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.[67][68] Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program providing one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.[69] Committees Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[70] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[71] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[72] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama has made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa.[
