God, no. Are you kidding? I loved your list of proposals, as I said. Since then I haven't paid too much attention to the thread. I was talking about bama. I thought this thread was going great guns until we had to hear how all us pansy ass liberals loved suicide bombers. When that stuff happens I either fight back, earning myself scorn from the admins equal to or greater than the first fouler, or I register a benign complaint (in the tread - I'm not a tattletale) and walk away. That's what I did. When that kind of reactionary rhetoric infects a thread, I can barely lurk in it. It gives me a migraine and I know exactly what the D&D haters are talking about. But no, not you. Carry on.
The last report I saw had Palestinian support for suicide bombers at over 60% of the population. That is a higher percentage than you can get to vote in America. To characterize the people of Palestine as a peace-loving people with a small minority of bad seeds is sticking your head in the sand.
Jeez, you're telling me bamaslammer is allowed to be in the states, and that's fine, but Cat Stevens isn't? Sorry, but that's just crazy.
Im sorry did I just hear you say that Kids deserve to be shot. What differentiates youfrom the terrorists?
Those are tragic, but let me know when you have some pictures from the kind of, or better yet the actual, events under discussion. During the Viet Nam war it was not uncommon for young kids to be sent out as booby traps. Do you not think that these radical Muslim beasts are capable of that and more?
Well for awhile it was over 70% then over 60% then it was down to 30% and for the first time it was a minority that supported the suicide bombings. There may have been more recent polls than that. I don't know. The point is that it shifts. The polls will go up and down, depending on any number of variables. When in history has an occupied people been asked to be supportive of the occupiers? It's bizarre. I hate suicide bombers. I think it's rotten, counterproductive, and awful. I do expect and think leadership should not support that, but I wouldn't expect a population being oppressed to worry about what's being done to the oppressor. I know it's wrong to blow up civilians, children, pizza parlors etc. But when the Palestinian children are being blown up, shot, and their homes are demolished, that's probably what concerns them most, then they are asked if they support suicide bombings against the country that's occupying them. I think we need to make a distinction between those that answer a poll, and those that carry out the violence.
adeelsiddiqui, what do you think you've proved by posting those images? Giddyup and I are old enough to have been bombarded with horrible images decades ago. There are horrible images on the networks, the cable news channels, magazines, sometimes in newspapers, although most of them try to tone that down. In short, we are bombarded with horrible images. I have seen far worse than what you showed, but I really don't want to see that sort of thing here. What are we going to have? Dueling images of Israelis blown to bloody fragments? Afghans? Iraqis? Spainiards? Germans? Londoners? Columbians? Indonesians? Sri Lankans? Pakistanis? Indians? Turks? Saudis? I could list dozens. You don't need to post images of that nature to make your point. If you do, then you've failed. I wish you were a contributer, so I could ask you to remove them, but instead, I just won't look into this thread any longer. Thanks. Oh, and some of us have kids. Keep D&D Civil!!
If you are old enough to have already seen these pictures ,then how do you sit back and listen to the crap that Bama is spewing, Truly only a sick mind would have no respect for a childs death, His thinking is the type of thinking that caused the death of all those Russian Kids. Yes, the thinking that just because someone is a particular race or religion they dont deserve to live. I agree there are some Crazed lunatics, but to say that even children deserve to be shot, is worse than me posting some pictures. Im sorry buddy, if those pics offend you, tehy hurt me too. I personally know of a few families whose kids were involved in this. Unfortunately they just did what the other kids did, they were just throwing rocks around, and they got shot in the head, and the other in the heart.... Makes you feel sick to the stomach huh, Keep D&D civilized? when ppl like bama can make statements like that then you should definately stop that first. OK mods if you can pls pull those pics off, sorry.
Very funny, dingleberry. I served my country with distinction. What did you do? Or more importantly, what did Cat Stevens (I refuse to call him by his stupid new name) do? If his money did go to those Muslim "charities" that turned out to be fronts for terrorist fundraisers, he should be denied entry. Hmmm.....(crickets chirp). Actually, his sins against good music deserve his being banned from this country.
Crap? You're talking about a people who turn a blind eye to savage murderers in their midst and yet, we're supposed to feel sorry for their maimed children? What about the Israeli children killed by the bombs of their compatriots? I don't see you saying garbage like that. And listen, Adeel, I never said children should be shot with ball rounds through the head. Now a child throwing rocks deserves a rubber bullet. Maybe not the head, but at least someplace where it at least knock them on their ass without serious injury. But accidents do happen and I guess that is the risk you take when you throw rocks at armed soldiers. Can't have a lot of sympathy there. I'm not a lunatic or a racist, but a realist. Now if the Israelis just went in and butchered "Palestinians" indiscriminately, I'd have a big problem with them. But they do not, no matter what crap propagand a you read that acts as if the "Palestinians" are innocent victims. In fact, the Israelis take GREAT pains to reduce civilian casualties at the cost of many deaths among their soldiers. Yet all we hear from your ilk is that they are a bunch of inhuman butchers. But of course to you, most "Palestinians" are innocent. Right.... When they help or simply condone the savage murderers among them, they are no better and deserve the same fate. I know if a bunch of kooks lived in my area were blowing themselves up to just senselessly butcher innocents, I'd have to stand against that. The "Palestinians" have no excuse.
Dude, I definately have voiced myself against ANY child being harmed, be it israeli, christian, jewish, russian, muslim or hindu. Those rubber bullets arent used all the time, and even when they are, they can cause some serious ass damage. A kid during spring break was hit by a reflecting rubber bullet, and was hospitalized for 3 months, and this kid was 19 yrs old, these are kids who wont even make a dent in a tank. The fact that ther are civillian deaths negates any precautions taken by the israelis. There is rarely the use of kids as a human shields, yet the children die at an alarming rate, Obviously this prevention isnt working very well. You have to be seriously blind to think that the Israeli soldiers dont have some personal hatred towards the palestinians. I dont doubt a minute that they have taken out that anger on civilians, and yes children included. YOu speak of your neighborhood. Ok lets say you live in sugar land, lets say some people in detroit were being mistreated and were given 50% of sugarland including your house, you dont have water or electricity, Your child is just playing int he street(lets say 4 yrs old), all the other kids are throwing rocks at the detroit ppl who are patrolling in a tank, next thing you know they get pissed and put 3 bullets in your son, you think thats still fair for the child?
Could you blame the Israelis for being just a bit disgusted even though I believe they go to great pains to avoid killing civilians, a difficult task since a "Palestinian" terrorist could be any where since they don't exactly wear little black hats? These are the folks who are exploding themselves regularly in the midst of your women and children. In your last paragraph, you're almost rationalizing that it's right for these kids to throw stones at soldiers. Well, if they aren't smart enough to realize "hey, I throw rocks at the soldiers with freaking GUNS, they might shoot my ass with a rubber bullet," they deserve a rubber bullet-style attitude adjustment.
While transporting high explosives behind enemy lines, a few explosives happen to go off accidentally near a school bus or a crowded mall. These things happen. But I can't really blame either side for the accident. And I don't have much sympathy for the innocent victims since I am sure thay are really not that innocent if you really looked hard into. Now, I don't believe a single word of the above, but that appears to be a difference between your and my posts. You should look into a "IDF heat shot" google search. You find many interesting things that will force you to change your opinion or at least drop your black and white hat analysis. What you will find in that google search is that: sometimes kids who are not throwing rocks get hit in the head with a bullet rubber bullets can kill IDF sharpshooters are asked to use rubber bullets but sometimes they forget which makes the head shot more lethal there is very llittle doubt that the IDF sharp shooters are aiming at the head (reading more carefully and you will find that there is little doubt that they are aiming for the eyes) 5-10 Palestines die at the hands of the IDF for every victim of a suicide bombing
