Yeah, yeah, yeah..... meanwhile. thousands of more people over the next couple of months will be slaughtered by devotees of "organized religion". You know, those people who claim to know the mind of God. Like CHRISTIANS. They say they know what God thinks, and how God wants us to live our lives. Most importantly, they know how people should lay prostrate in honor of God while forking over a significant percentage of their money to support the Preacher's home and lifestyle. It is friggin' insane, and the source of most of the world's problems with violence. Sorry, but these Christians constantly tell me that I am going to HELL for not believing as they do. ADMIT IT. If you are Christian, you feel the same way. Well, I think that I have the right to announce that I think you are friggin' stupid for believing in God and Jesus and the rest of that crap, and I don't feel the lest bit remorseful about my declaration. After all....telling somebody that they are stupid for their beliefs is not nearly offensive and telling someone they will burn in hellfire for all eternity- is it???
1. I'm not christian... I'm jewish. I've been told on numerous occasions that I'm going to hell. The great thing about it is that I don't believe in hell so I could care less. 2. You seriously need to grow up and chill out. If somebody tells you that you are going to hell, then just laugh at them and be done with it. It's our right as Americans to believe in what we want to, donate our hard-earned money where we want to (even if it goes to "greedy" preachers, etc.) and, to a certain extent, say what we want to. Be proud of who you are, but you are walking a fine line on ignorance and elitism when you claim a moral high-ground based on your atheism.
Jesus was not involved in politics before, but as I understand it he will be.. He is coming back to do what exactly? stanleykurtz, Why so tense? lol If you don't believe you're going to burn in hell fire, why would you even be bothered if someone says it? If there were no religions today, the same amount of violence would be going on except that the same people would have to find something else to pin the blame on. It so happens that religion is very convenient for this kind of stupidity. It's also interesting that you're willing to bash 3-4billion people rather than doing some research (which i'm sure you'll claim you've done) and finding out that... hey, wait a second, these lunatics are SAYING it's for religion, but their religion says NOT to do things like that. Jesus didn't say anything about blowing up abortion clinics. That doesn't stop someone from claiming to be doing it in his name. Then smartasses like you pop up and blame Jesus. How does that make ANY sense?
Your right parahippocampal gyrus is not functioning well tonight http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/h...em&ex=1212638400&en=104a05b0bb21fa9c&ei=5087 nothing like bringing some science to a religious thread
I don't need to grow up. That happened a long time ago. I think people who believe that they understand God's mind are the one's who need to group up. It makes as much sense as the friggin' Easter Bunny. As for chilling out, how can I? I see my children growing up in a world facing an ideology called Islam that is a greater threat to our Republic over the next 100 years that Nazism and Communism ever could have been. This whole organized religion scam is downright disheartening.
Jesus was most definitely involved in politics. There was no separation between church and state back then, and the Romans had ongoing agreements with the ruling groups at the temple. When Jesus was cleaning house over there, it was a direct confrontation with the government. His moves were very directly political at the time he was around.
I don't see that at all. In fact they only example I am aware of about Jesus and the Romans was when they (the "religious" people at the time - the Pharisees) tried to trap him with a question about paying taxes, Jesus said “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21) - which I think is very neutral politically. He did have confrontations but those were almost always with the "religious" people (Pharisees and Sadducees).
The religious people were of the government. That's the point. It isn't like it is today where we have separation of church and state. When the writers of the bible were talking about Jesus giving rebellious teachings in and about the temple the people at the time knew that it was political.
I think the culture was different then, sure. Government and religion were more intertwined. But Jesus wasn't motivated by politics.
It would need to go beyond scripture into the history of the times. Josephus the historian even wrote that the Roman govt. kept the priests ceremonial outfits locked up and only gave them out at times of certain holidays. That's how closely the two were intertwined. At past Jewish celebrations the Romans had even shut them down, because of fear of rebellion. Nobody at the time the bible was written would have even thought the religious acts of Jesus were not also political.
I love these threads... Jesus loves people, no he doesn't condemn because He offers forgiveness following Jesus has nothing to do with religious rules and man's commands it is all about forgiveness. What is wrong with love, forgiveness and righteousness (treating yourself, others and God good) You don't have sins, you don't need forgiveness and if you have no sins you certainly are qualified to throw stones of judgment at others. I understand people who don't believe in God, I used to mock and curse God, but I have to honestly say I had no point of reference for God's love and forgiveness. I could not see it anywhere on earth. It wasn't until God showed love to me in a real way that my heart was affected. I am totally affected or infected however you look at it.
