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What will Obama do to change this country!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Joshaaronb, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. Zion

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    At least he acknowledges him.

     
  2. thumbs

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    I did. Go back and look at my post just before yours. It was an edit.
     
  3. Oski2005

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    Who asked for a paternity test? The only person who's mentioned paternity test was McCain's strategist Steve Schmidt.
     
  4. durvasa

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    To me, family means much more than blood relationship. A true family is a network of people that grow up amongst each other, care for one another, and support one another. You chose to seek out your blood relatives and make them a part of your family. That's your own preference. But you had no obligation to do so, and it's unfair for us to put that obligation on others.

    I don't love people in my family because we are related by blood. That's a non-factor, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    The Hispanic part of me sometimes shows too much. Family is blood, and blood is family. No one is left behind. No one.
     
  6. durvasa

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    And since other Hispanics share more blood with you than non-Hispanics, do you automatically care about them more (all else being equal, of course)? You see how the consequences of this type of thinking can be problematic?
     
  7. thumbs

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    I am unclear as to your point or question. I am a mongrel -- Hispanic, Welsh, Greek and German.
     
  8. Smokey

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    To me the question is not what will Obama do, but rather what will McCain do that is different than Bush? Why should the GOP have another 4 years?

    I believe in balance. When one party becomes too powerful by holding the office too long they become greedy and irresponsible.

    Face it, for the majority of us our lives will not be effected by the next President.
     
  9. durvasa

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    You think Obama is morally obligated to seek out this man in Africa and help him because he's related to him by blood (and, apparently, that's reason enough).

    We know that people of the same race are more closely related by blood than people of different races. So, by extension, we have more of an obligation to seek out the welfare of people within our race than the welfare of people outside our race. Do you agree?
     
  10. glynch

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    Leaving aside Obama and McCain's distant relatives
    what I think Obama wants to accomplish.

    1) Reverse the Bush tax cuts which were designed to redistribute income upward and hamstring the government of future administrations by creating a massive deficit.

    2) Get health insurance for the uninsured and better coverage for the many with very poor insurance. McCain has no plan that I have heard of.

    3) Cut down on our bloated defense spending by ending the Iraq War and hopefully wasting less money in Afghanistan than McCain will. Being more diplomatic in our approach to Iran, Russia and other countries. Use the savings for infrastructure, education and other needs or at minimum to borrow less from China, Dubai etc.

    4) Help our country move to energy independence even if oil companies are releuctant.

    5) Reinstate sensible government regulations so that we don't have to keep bailing out real estate and stock market speculators.

    Generically restore American's HOPE that we can do big projects besides foreign wars. We have tried the way of the government haters and it has failed.
     
  11. flipmode

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    He will clearly delineate the usage of exclamation points?
    What do you think about that!
     
  12. thumbs

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    No. (Sorry, a simple no is too short to post.)
     
  13. durvasa

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    It appears to me to be a contradiction. My obligation to care for another person has nothing to do with our genetic similarities. Not sure why you think that's true in the more general case of race relations, but not in the specific case of half-siblings.
     
  14. AXG

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    The foreigners will invade.
     
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    What will Obama do to change this country? Return to the Senate, continue to try to raise taxes, weaken our armed forces and raise energy prices. Same ol' same ol'.
     
  16. Jugdish

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    That's not change we can believe in.
     
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    His positions have been duly noted in great detail in countless threads in this very forum - one which, it should be noted, is centered on basketball, not politics. To the OP then, the question is silly not only because it's repetitive, but because it's asked in a bizarre place. Moreover, your silly accusation that any positions mentioned here are merely copied from the web is...well...silly.

    First, as has been mentioned simply here in many a post in this very thread - answers have been given. As for specific details, where else would you go then to Obama's own website? Heck, it's like the third post down in this thread. Did you expect this to be some sort of Obama delegate forum, where everyone intimately knows every one of his positions perfectly? (it should be noted that some posters here - FB for example - are very well learned in this regard)

    It would appear to me that your motivation in continually bringing this up is to pretend this somehow validates the tired accusation that Obama supporters are somehow lacking on specifics with regard to their candidate of choice. That no one cares to acknowledge this boring claim of yours is not vindication - rather it's proof that you, like so many mccain supporters, have nothing of interest to offer about your own candidate, and so can only wax philosophic about supposed misgivings you have with the opposing side.

    That's very played out sir and, as someone who posts and reads here way too often, I must say it's just damn tiring to continually read about it, nevermind post a response to it.
     
  18. BigBenito

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    Obama is a point-forward.
     
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