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What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by jiggyfly, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    LMAO!!
     
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  2. Sajan

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    No hard feelings bro.
    If I get a Tesla one day, I will @ you or message you.

    It's inevitable that a lot of legacy manufacturers will close shop but who and when remains to be seen. Maybe some consolidations will happen once they get smaller.

    US AUTO Q3 2021 Sales

    Toyota Motor Corp 536,845
    General Motors 457,509
    Stellantis - FCA 400,919
    Ford Motor Company 397,644
    Hyundai Kia Auto Group 347,991
    Honda Motor Company 345,914
    Nissan Motor Co 222,757
    Subaru Corporation 156,222
    Volkswagen Group 135,613
    Mazda 84,046
    Tesla 84,001
    BMW Group 82,064
    Daimler 71,182
    Volvo 31,611
    Jaguar Land Rover 22,025
     
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    Opinion: Imagine Virginia’s icy traffic catastrophe — but with only electric vehicles

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ffic-catastrophe-with-only-electric-vehicles/

    excerpt:

    Sometime after 3 a.m. Tuesday, as an epic 48-mile winter traffic jam on Interstate 95 in Virginia dragged on, a long-haul trucker from Canada heard a knock at the door of his cab. It was one of the hundreds of other motorists stuck in subfreezing temperatures with no food or water.

    The supplicant was “driving a Tesla,” recounted the trucker, who told the story on Twitter under the handle My World Through A Windshield, “and he’s worried about running out of power in the cold. [It’s] 19°F or -7°C. He’s a nice guy who was worried about his kids. I gave him some water, a spare blanket and [a] thermal/mylar blanket.”

    My World Through A Windshield did not report what eventually happened to this driver, but the anecdote illustrates an important point: If everyone had been driving electric vehicles, this mess could well have been worse.

    The not-so-unprecedented event — essentially a repeat of what happened on a wintry night in the D.C. area 11 years ago this month — therefore provides a reality check on the push by government and business to electrify cars and trucks.

    It is a scientific fact that batteries of all kinds lose charge more rapidly in cold weather, and that includes the sophisticated lithium-ion ones used by Teslas and other EVs. Carmakers can, and do, mitigate cold-weather “range anxiety” through various technologies; Tesla recommends using its smoother-accelerating “Chill Mode” when the mercury falls. Drivers can save battery power by, say, turning off the heat. The issue cannot be eliminated, however, as Tesla acknowledges on its corporate website.

    It’s a hassle in ordinary winter situations but potentially much worse than that on a night like Monday.
    more at the link

     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    What is the biggest GM mover in the US? GMC Yukon?

    edit: Chevy Silverado? Makes sense.
     
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    When it passes BMW next?

    Who has it passed yet.

    You really are delusional.
     
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    Oh No! Those Model Ts keep getting stuck and continually run out of gas because there's no pavement and no gas stations. Better keep riding horses.

    Oh no! I don't have coverage everywhere. Better stick with that land line.

    Oh no! The battery on the remote for my HDTV runs out sometimes. Better to just keep one of those old B&W TVs where you have to change the channel manually.

    The snowstorm is a logistical problem that can be solved any number of ways. We just haven't reached the critical infrastructure point yet--much less changed our assumptions about driving--but we will.
     
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    I was wondering about that when I saw that on TV this morning, I had never thought about EV's in events like that.
    Are you being sarcastic?

    How does infrastructure solve an issue like this?

    How do you see these problems being solved in any number of ways and if it's so easy why is it still happening to gas powered cars?
     
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    I always thought the worst would be during hurricanes or something as people jam up freeways/highways trying to flee late. lol. But that would be a rare occurrence for me, so that never played into my thinking. I never thought about the snow and stranded on a freeway for hours, but then that'd probably be rare for me, too. Although it did happen to tons of people on I-35 for several hours a couple of years ago, I think, during a snow/ice storm. Honestly, those are outlier events to me.... or for me, I should say.
     
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    When I lived in Virginia it happened to me twice it was a rare occurrence but that does not matter when you are stranded without power in a vehicle?

    Never really thought about during a Hurricane, what happens when you have to evacuate and you don't have enough range to get were you need to be and how long it takes to charge or if you have access to charging stations on your way.

    Probably would not be an issue for me since none of really would affect me but its something that a lot of people need to factor in.
     
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    Define “short-term”. It’s 2022 and the Cybertruck has been delayed a year already and I bet it gets delayed again. Just now the 2022 release date has been removed from the website. It will be another Roadster, which was supposed to release in 2020 and has been delayed till 2023.

    Tesla is a company with big promises but usually underdelivers.

    And which FSD features right now are good? Auto park is bad, Summon is a gimmick.
     
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    What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?
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    Angry fan boy rants.
     
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    Short term - model x was delayed for months, model 3 was delayed for months.

    Cybertruck has been delayed like them and will be made in the millions like them.

    Tesla makes big promises, and almost always keeps them, if only a few months late. They have been crushing expectations for the last two years, and again in this past quarter. You don't get to become the most valuable automaker in the world and a trillion dollar company by "usually underdelivering".

    Fsd :

    Stop light and stop sign recognition and stop.

    Auto lane change

    Navigate on autopilot - combines navigation and auto lane change to take you from on ramp to off ramp on highways

    Those are available to all FSD users and better than any competing driver assist feature on the market.

    The full FSD that you were alluding to that's delayed, including all the promised features, which has the capability to drive you from home to destination and back, is also being rolled out in a Beta trial. Tesla evaluates your driving behavior for a week and gives you a safety score, so far the 100-98s are allowed into the Beta program which includes thousands of people. As they collect data on these thousands of users and improve FSD they will lower the safety score requirement until it is available to everyone who purchased FSD. FSD Beta is the best self driving technology suite on the market that is available to consumers. The only thing even remotely close is Waymo, however they are only for commercial use, and only available in a 5 Sq mile geofenced premapped area in Arizona. There is nothing else on the market at wide scale like FSD.

    FSD Beta:

     
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    Not trying to stir the pot but I did see this this morning.....

     
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    Its still not close to perfect(though amazing) even in perfect weather conditions, so did not expect it to handle snow yet
     
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