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What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

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  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    I've got a 2010 Tundra 4WD/Tow Package/V8. It's a horse, a gas hog, and our trip car/take the dogs to the trails and vet rig. We also have a camper I pull with it that we are about to sell (a vintage Hi-Lo if anyone wants to make a deal early). With selling the camper and having both kids out of college and in a place where we won't need to move them again, I won't be replacing the Tundra and it will be our last ICE rig. Will probably keep it for a few more years (or until the dogs die) and just drive it sporadically while the Mach-E does most of the daily stuff. With both of us now retired, we really only need one car or maybe two if they are small. I really don't want to have another vehicle that doesn't fit into the garage.

    I could see getting a Maverick--once they come out with an EV version..
     
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  2. Mango

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    Depending on how one interprets this, maybe for the 2027 Model Year. Otherwise for the 2028 Model Year.

    Ford To Build EREV SUVs, Super Duty Trucks As EV Plans Shift

    Despite pickup trucks being wildly popular in the U.S., the ones running on pure battery power are struggling to strike a chord with the masses. They tend to be more expensive than their gas-powered counterparts and buyers don’t seem convinced by their towing and hauling capabilities.

    Now, automakers are increasingly embracing a new solution: extended-range electric vehicles (EREVs). Ram and Scout Motors have already announced their EREV plans for the U.S. and Ford is now joining that growing list. The Dearborn automaker is preparing to offer EREV versions of its SUVs, crossovers and the Super Duty pickup, Bloomberg confirmed on Tuesday.

    EREVs get an electric powertrain with a large battery and motors. They also get a traditional internal combustion engine. The role of the gas engine is only to act as an onboard generator to recharge the battery. The wheels run on electric power only. Owners can also recharge the battery directly, but the onboard gas generator can be a backup when charging isn’t accessible.

    EREVs are already a burgeoning category in China. Chinese automakers sold some 623,000 EREVs in 2024, according to data from the China Association Of Automobile Manufacturers. The segment will land in the U.S. this year, with Stellantis preparing to launch the Ram 1500 Ramcharger that has been promised to deliver about 690 miles of range.
    Ford’s EREVs won’t arrive until 2027. But when they do, they’ll likely play a crucial role in making its EV business profitable—something that has so far proved elusive for Ford even as it moved into the electric space early on.

    Ford's EV business unit, christened Model e, was forecast to lose about $5 billion in 2024. Even though sales of the fully electric F-150 Lightning have been growing, they account for a fraction of sales in the broader F-150 family, which also includes gas-powered and hybrid models. As we reported last year, Ford has canceled a three-row electric SUV and delayed other models, including an all-electric pickup truck expected to be a Lightning successor.

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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Now we're talking, i'm sure they'll have it perfected in about 5 years
     
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  4. Dr of Dunk

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    EREV's, from my recollection, combine the best and worst of ICE and EV vehicles to arrive at a solution to more range. Kind of like a hybrid version of "this is the best we can do at the moment". With electric's batteries (usually a smaller amount) as well as ICE's engine, that's a lot of space being taken up. Mazda has an advantage with its rotary engine being used as the ICE engine for an EREV model they're selling (I think in the US, not sure) since it's a smaller engine. But that thing has the performance of a slug from what I remember reading last year.
     
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  5. Mango

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    A Prius has had a ICE - Electric combo for years and EREV is flipping the relationship with the Electric as the primary and ICE as the helper.

    I don't know if they are going to adjust to a clearly smaller battery with the ICE able to both extend the range and compensate for a smaller battery.

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    Yes, one shouldn't got to a Drag Strip with an older Prius either.
     

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