What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

Not odd at all that you just happen to have page full of shortseller fud at the tip of your finger tips. I do find this line funny though. They are quite literally growing at over 100% yoy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...-vehicle-production-and-delivery-numbers.html

How do you even spin that?

 

Tell me more about this f150 ev.

Thats 5 price hikes this year with demand far exceeding Tesla’s available battery supply. Q2 will be far and away another record quarter with >200k deliveries, >100% yoy growth. Those are the results. Spew your fud, rest is noise.

 

https://electrek.co/2021/05/25/tesla-cybertruck-reservations-1-million-electric-pickup-trucks/

Lul cute.

 

Tesla probably screwed itself by getting into bed with China, it needed the market but lost its technology.

 

Probably not a good thing a car company needs to pump up cryptocurrency so much.

 

No just ignorant like most media. For the second time since you have hard time reading, Tesla pays a 20% import tax in Europe, and they don’t qualify for many local subsidies, so yes with one hand tied behind its back their sales there have leveled off. However with Berlin factory coming online by the end of this year they will have locally produced cars not subject to tariffs and eligible for subsidies that all other cars there do now, which means the best car is going to sell the most again on level playing field. Then ignorant readers of ignorant media will wonder how come Tesla sales is up so much and why the stock is up so much, again. It’s like people never learn.

 

Yeah, that’s how Apple was doomed. Wait.

That sht might work in local Chinese market but the rest of the world is not buying knockoff China made Tesla wannabes just like they don’t buy Xiaomis.

 

Dumb. Elon was the one that crashed crypto recently.

 

Apple has a much longer track record and is in different industry. Come on now.....

 

How is it dumb? Why did Tesla getting involved in crypto?

 

So Chinese can steal Tesla’s ip but can’t for apple? You know an apple clone actually exists in China named xiao mi and is their best seller. Apple seems to still be surviving though.

 

why did it get involved in usd? And why can’t it diversify less than 10% of their cash away from it? Tesla is not the only company to do this if you haven’t noticed. Seems like you are suggesting they got involved to pump Bitcoin, again, you realize Elon has been the one bad mouthing and crashing crypto lately right?

 

Of course not, but clearly Apple is a much better run company.

I know there are many clones of US products in China, but what makes Tesla special besides being first? Why does Tesla have such shady accounting practices and relying on tax credits so they can claim "profitability" in order to juice the stock? Apple doesn't need to do any of the things Tesla has to do to stay afloat. Apple built a massive user base and can now pull levers like services while Tesla sells a fraction of a % of cars but is more valuable than every major automaker?

Comparing Tesla to Apple doesn't prop up Tesla like you make it seem.

 

Why did it get involved in USD..... you mean an actual currency that facilitates the transfer of goods and services? Seriously?

Most companies aren't valued greater than their entire industry. Just seems like a lot of smoke and mirrors in order to juice the company on paper.

 

Holy crap the rampant misinformation Batman. There is nothing shady about tax credits, I know they have become a bulletin point hot word for the media recently since they ran out of attack vectors, but do tell do you even know what these tax credits are?

Tesla does not receive them from the government. They do not receive them in secret and neither do they hide them on the books. This is a system setup by the US, EU, and recently China government where manufacturers who fail to meet emissions standards can avoid getting fined by buying emissions credits from companies who have an overallotment of credits, Tesla in this case since all they produce are EVs. This is a system open to all manufacturers, not just Tesla, if there was actually really the amount of competition that people like jiddyfly claims, other manufacturers wouldn’t need to keep paying Tesla for these credits to avoid fines. But in reality for the vast majority of the industry they still come woefully short of meeting emissions standards because they do not produce EVs at scale, and need to grovel to Tesla to save them.

This is not a new system, and Tesla has been selling emissions credits for 10+ years. They clearly identify these credits when reporting earnings and actually break them out in their non gaap numbers since it is not technically part of their core business. So their non gaap numbers are actually cleaner than the gaap mandate.

I’m not sure if all this is just going over your head or if you just recently read some fud article on seeking alpha trying to scam people into believing this is some new devious scheme Tesla came up with to “juice their stock”, but that’s the explanation. It’s incredible the amount of disinformation this company has to deal with.

 

Do you know how many corporations and institutions are diversifying away from the usd now with rampant inflation possibly in the horizon? Do you know that copper and lumber prices have tripled since last year due to government money printing and supply shocks from reopening? I’m not saying buying Bitcoin is the best choice, but that’s the one Tesla made. What are you trying to insinuate? That they bought it to pump up their stock? You realize vast majority of tsla investors hate the idea of them holding btc due to added volatility and again Elon has been the one criticizing btc lately causing the crash. That sounds like a pretty bad job of pumping dude.

 

I swear to God having a conversation on the internets is like trying to explain algebra to fking goats why do I do this to myself

 

sounds like your beef is with the capital markets and not me or Tesla since how much people want to pay for their stock is out of our control. You will have plenty to complain about the next ten years too then as they become the largest company in the world. That seems exceedingly obvious.