Turnout. She will end up with 10-12 million less votes than Biden. Democrats didn’t turnout. Same thing happened to Hillary. America is not ready to vote for a woman as President.
What is Trump's plan? Cut taxes? Trump also ran up the debt. The mandatory stuff we have already takes up the tax revenue.
1a) biden should have never picked harris for VP, but he did it to appease a certain voting block of the dem party. but he was basically choosing the person who would get the nod to replace him and she was never going to be a good candidate for president. 1b) biden should have stated in 2020 that he was only going to serve one term. that he wanted to be the last boomer president and pass the torch to the next generation. 2) failing that, biden should have read the tea leaves and announced in late 2023 or early this year that he wouldnt run again. 3) dems should have had an open primary to replace him, although i get that with only 3 months before the election that would have been difficult if not impossible. harris is just not a good candidate and i doubt she would have gotten the nod in an open primary. mark kelly or josh shapiro would have had a much better shot. 4) sorry to say, but the truth is they needed a white guy with a working class background to beat trump. still too many people in this country who would never vote for a woman and even if so, harris was the wrong woman. 5) her campaign needed to be more than just being the anti-trump. she was unclear with her message and policy proposals. 6) i said it in another thread, but not going on joe rogan was a bigly mistake. based on the results, doubt it would have made a difference, but his audience was exactly who she needed to win over and she didnt even try. and this speaks to a broader issue she had which is that she didnt do enough interviews and press conferences. considering how she got the nomination, these things were more important than they otherwise would have been. 7) she and the dems in general were running from bidens record and totally failed when it came to promoting the good that he did. i know voters in this country dont do nuance well and the dems are TERRIBLE at messaging and self-promotion, but there was no attempt there to highlight anything good over the last 4 years. why would voters on the fence want to vote for you when youre running away from your own administrations policies? #1 was inflation...harris and dems totally failed when it came to explaining that inflation was not a problem unique to america and that we were actually faring better than many other countries. one could argue that bidens policies steered us out of a full-blown recession that EVERYONE thought we were entering 2 1/2 years ago. harris failed to highlight these policies.
It hurts Harris actually got more votes than Biden in Georgia & Wisconsin. That turnout is very similar in MI & PA as 2020. The Battleground states were pretty consistent. It is the less competitive states where turnout was down. We don't yet know exactly how much down though.
Going on Joe Rogan wouldn't help unless it was Waltz instead of Harris. When Rogan fans(I'm not saying you are to be clear) respect Trump more than Harris because Trump goes on "long form sit down discussions with Rogan" they don't understand that the Rogan audience is primed for dude brah talk. This is one aspect about American male voters who are addicted to these male influencer podcast bros don't understand about the things and hobbies they like. They believe they are entitled to a president who can bro it out with Rogan. Harris can't bro it out with Rogan. She is not raised in that culture and does not have any shared hobbies or interests with Rogan fans. And understand that every election cycle millions of women for a century now have voted for dudes who don't share their culture, hobbies interests at all. A younger Joe Biden on Rogan talking about his classic Correvate works. Harris talking about her struggles as a mixed race girl trying to make it in academia and law does not mix well with Rogan bro talk. Harris on Rogan doesn't work and male bro culture voters need to understand that shouldn't be a criteria for picking who manages the Executive branch. I mean those dudes have to be weak willed if women had the ability to vote for humans that have no shared hobbies or interests to them to be president for decades now. What was the issue with the Harris campaign that they could control? They didn't sell a plan they had for America. If for example their talking point about immigration is merely buying into the right wing framing of "border security" and saying that you should vote for them because the GOP played politics with a Border Bill, any racist dingnut who actually believes the border is a security issue rather than a labor exploitation issue is just going to vote for the real thing that always is consistent in hating migrants which is the GOP candidate. Harris this election cycle says the border wall is a good idea when in 2016 she said it was racist. So Democrats buying into right wing framing thinking they can get the bigot dude bro vote was the main failure that they could control but failed to. They should have sold a vision based on principles rather than fear they aren't pandering to the "Cheney demographic" enough. But a lot of the issues of how Trump won again is out of the control of the Democrat party. American young males are more terminally online and are being more and more brainwashed by social media algorithms and masculinity grifters and that is creating a unified class of angry bros that transcend race as you are seeing the male Latino and Black community being heavily part of this type of masculinity grift culture.
I agree with all of this. The only thing I might add is that President Biden should've run in 2016. He should be wrapping up his 2nd term. trump would've gone back to a reality show or some other failed business. He'd be an afterthought at this point. He probably would've tried again in 2020 but wouldn't have made it out of the primaries. The DNC has to figure out how to get the message across better and stop being the anti-trump party. It's not working. The only light I see right now is that the 22nd Amendment exists and there's little to no chance of it being repealed.
Yeah as I mentioned, sure. A better candidate for the moment could have done better, but I still think the fundamentals were working against any Democratic candidate. Especially a candidate who wouldn't have the ability to run AGAINST Biden, and the big entity which was really on trial during this election.... ...Our culture. Meaning there's this culture the American right and most men see as attacking their identity, and forcing them to be Soy-Boy, trans loving, woke antifa libtards.... which isn't true, but they FEEL this culture is being forced down their throat so they have this reaction to see Trump, Joe Rogan, Etc. as figureheads against that culture. It's not really about Biden, but Biden of course is in charge of the US Government so him and the Democrats were always going to get blamed. The only way a Democrat could have done better and had a chance is if again they were running as an outsider. If we had to do this again, I would definitely have told Biden to announce he wasn't running as soon as the infrastructure bill passed, and allowed for a very hotly contested primary with a ton of outsider & non-traditional candidates.... but what's done is done.
Walz would've lost worse than Kamala. She at least gained some female votes. Can't overstate this enough: the current liberal agenda and the tiny little groups it seems intent on pandering to is their issue. Not old racists who were around for separate fountains. Men under 30 largely voted for Trump. They're not dying any time soon. Hispanics and Asians have shifted towards the Republicans. We're not going anywhere. The Dems need to abandon their "what is a woman" and "George Floyd/BLM" agendas. And stat. It's tired and the popular vote very bluntly showcases it. Hillary won the popular vote by like 2 mill in this "mysoginistic" country. I voted for Hillary. Did not vote for Harris. Which is another issue entirely: people like me who are more genuinely neutral....liberals have gone out of their way to paint us as the enemy. That we're just as bad as the conservatives. Eventually they were going to tire and actually vote for Conservatives because of how tired they were of constantly being gaslit by the left.
Agree with almost all of this - #6 not so much but mostly because I don't think the Rogan crowd would ever go for Kamala or a similar candidate. I bolded your last one because I think it's particularly accurate. This is what the Democrats have done for my entire life - they let the GOP frame every issue and then react weakly, rather than framing the issues themselves and then using that framework to attack the GOP. In addition to inflation, immigration has been succinctly described as "open borders" when that's never been the case - you'd think the Democrats would find a way to say something better than "the GOP won't let us pass our bill."
In no particular order... Kamala was possibly the worst Dem candidate since Dukakis. It was obvious in the 2020 primaries that she was in way over her head and the same holds true this year. She is just utterly incoherent on a lot of important issues. Aside from reproductive rights and maybe one or two other things, she didn't seem to have a clear, articulate plan or vision on anything. And her campaign knew it...there was a reason why she largely avoided interviews until about a month ago. The "anti-Trump" strategy just isn't good enough - people understand that you can't merely win an election, you gotta govern and LEAD for 4 years too. While it is true that there are some folks out there that will refuse to vote for a woman or for a Black person, those folks are already solidly conservative and/or MAGA. So Kamala being a woman didn't have much to do with her defeat. The right woman would have done much better with independents and possibly won. IIRC, when Biden first took office in 2020, his original plan was to be a one-term president. He should have stuck to that plan, or at least dropped out a year before he actually did, so that the Democrats could have a "normal" open primary where Kamala could compete with Newsom, Whitmer, Buttigieg, Shapiro, etc. for the nomination. I think Biden deserves a lot of blame here. And Jill may have been a bad influence on him too. There might've been some legit elder abuse there. Biden's own dismal job performance and approval ratings obviously dragged her down. While the Vice President has far less power than the President, that position still has some influence that she could've leveraged, and she didn't. Her not doing enough to differentiate herself from Biden was harmful. And of course there was that one damaging comment she made on The View. It's the economy, stupid. Tim Walz was a bad pick. Dude was kinda awkward and strange and the spotlight was too big for him. I got a "deer in headlights" vibe from him at times, such as during the debate with Vance. Shapiro would've been better (she would've won PA) but it may not have mattered in the long run who she picked as VP...I think Trump would still win all of the other battleground states. Biden made a mistake picking her as VP in the first place. I get the impression that he (and Jill) never truly liked her. Also, while it's true that a lot of Black people wanted him to pick a black woman...they didn't necessarily want him to pick Kamala. Stacey Abrams had higher favorability with them (she would've been a bad pick too IMO). It wasn't just the battleground states...there were a lot of safe blue states where the margin of victory was substantially narrowed compared to 2020 and even 2016. New Jersey, New York, Minnesota, New Mexico...even Illinois. Democrats demonized men (especially straight men) way too much, and paid the price, even with Latino and Black men. And especially with young men regardless of race or ethnicity. The whole transgender sports and kids thing hurt the Dems too. The anger the far-left had at Biden and Kamala due to Israel/Gaza was a problem for her, especially in WI, MI and PA. I think she may have been in a "damned if you do", "damned if you don't" situation on that issue.
The liberal agenda as you describe it is nothing more than living up to the ideals of this country. Bur more significantly, the only people bringing up "what is a woman" are academics (and in academia only) and conservative politicians who want to create a new boogeyman out of people who aren't cisgendered. Look at the actual legislation passed by the Democrats and tell me how much of it has to do with what you describe. It's almost zero.
A lot of the issues you point out here like the transgender sports issue isn't the fault of the Democrats outside of failing to be more blunt that if you care about this issue you are a weirdo victim of social media algorithms. The Harris campaign was too soft on these people addicted to this topic. They should have been harsher and calling out the evils of social media algorithms creating terminally online beta cucks b****ing about trans people rather than being active in their local community. Ironically the way to handle the Rogan bro caucus is being blunt about how weird and out of touch with society they are rather than tip toeing around their weirdness. The peak of the Harris campaign was calling out their weirdness. Then they started to campaign with the Cheneys. The DNC convention was the inflection point I believe where they shifted from the "they are weird" campaign strategy to the "we are essentially Bush Jr's third term" campaign strategy and in hindsight it was obvious that shift in strategy was their death blow. The addiction to trans sports poo flinging discussions is the result of a group of grifters and wealthy venture capitalists trying to distract male terminally online voters to believe that transgender women in sports is a bigger issue than their yearly monthly rent hike whenever they renew their lease because of companies creating nationwide pricing algorithms for rent pricing forming cartel on a essential human need. There is a group of wealthy people at the top that wants the average Rogan bro to believe DEI diversity hires and trans people are why their life sucks rather than venture capitalist being the reason their lives suck. The fact that that was an issue in the first place is a result of our failed social media algorithmic society that allows propagandists, grifters, capitalists to distract the citizenry from real issues.
Were any available? Wals at the top of the ticket does nothing imo She jumps Vance?? Alot of people say one thing in public but do another in the booth. Democrats are definitely ARROGANT They so busy trying to MAKE HISTORY to actually make history Someone says people vote with their bellies When they are well fed and happy. . .then they worry about all the other stuff A satisifed public will take stances on abortion, trans this or that etc. . . .but their belly *trumps* everything else George F. Will - "sentient people recognized that it is politically impossible for Congress to pass a national abortion ban." <--- I'm no so sure about that. Rocket River
The Trump campaign was essentially a campaign for the Tech Bro PayPal mafia gang of Theil, Musk, Sachs etc to convince male voters that venture capitalists like them aren't the problem but rather migrants, diversity hires and trans people are the problem. The raison d'etre of the Trump campaign was basically a giant advertisement for the tech bro monarchism philosophy of Peter Theil and Curtis Yarvin. That is what the Harris campaign failed to fight against and it is scary that a campaign platform centered around Curtis Yarvin's philosophy can win out in a general election. That is quite frankly frightening.
I didn't know Joe Rogan only interviews men. Could have swore give seen Gabbard on there several times, among other strong independent women. Why did Trump gain with women voters this time around if what you say is true?
