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What went wrong for Kamala?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Nov 6, 2024.

  1. ArtV

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    Oh I agree that spending was absolutely necessary but we just spent too much. Now even if we spent less, inflation would have still gotten its footing which wouldn’t have been Trump’s fault. I get it was a hard time to do the right thing perfectly but I know people that made more during Covid because of the government than before Covid. Hindsight wisdom.
     
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    Hilarious that the candidate who your non-voting non-citizen self was supporting won. And yet somehow, you seem triggered by @Xopher, @fchowd0311 and I. This is the second time you've mentioned our personal responsibility in Harris' loss. You even lied about about me supporting violence from terrorists.

    How is it that winning has made you even more miserable?
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    I'm feeling GREAT.

     
  4. fchowd0311

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    "Brother I had to vote for the dude who says migrants poison the blood of the country because 3 people between 2020-2024 had transition surgery as inmates. Brother I had to do it for the fiscal savings"
     
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  5. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I think doing too much is better than not doing enough. The fact that inflation was the only negative that came out of it is pretty good. My only beef was letting people sit too long. People were saying I rather sit at home when they could have gone back to work which partly contributed to the lack of labor supply and inflation. You don't have to be a crazy GOP nutjob to realize incenting people to not work when they can safely do so is a bad idea.
     
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    Read much?
    My quote.
    I dumbed it down for you so you can get the correct context moron.
    I know the amount of folks needing transition surgery in prison is miniscule, but all some others hear is they are using my money for a sex change of a convicted criminal.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    "Brother I had to vote for the dude who says migrants poison the blood of the country because 3 people between 2020-2024 had transition surgery as inmates. Brother I had to do it for the fiscal savings"

    Ya I don't see how your clarification is supposed to convince me to change my expression of the thought process of someone who voted for Trump based on trivial bs like this.


    No basic intellectual curiosity before you vote for a God damn President to maybe see how much this effects fiscal policy and whether it's worth voting in someone who expressed Hitlerian race science rhetoric because of "inmate transgender surgeries". No one who voted based on this type of crap is a serious person.

    You can't force me or shame me into respecting these type of people.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
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    Nah, she is just a selfish person, and ignorant of how the loan forgiveness program was implemented, all of these people have paid for more than 10 years and for more than what their loans were.

    We don't need to stay because this is how it has always worked, that is asinine.

    Why not go to ZERO percent loans?

    DD
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Let's face it, Kamalah was never a great candidate. She didn't excite anyone including the democratic base. She had to withdraw before the primaries in 2020. She was better than Biden because Biden F'ed up the debate and she was already behind. Trump didn't get any more votes, he actually had less votes than prior elections. She just couldn't get the base excited enough to show up to the polls. Voter turnout was abysmal.
     
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  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Rockets forever!
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    While she got a boost, I think that Biden deciding to run, when he originally said he was a 1 term guy got it all started, Gavin Newsome would have wiped the floor with Trump.

    DD
     
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    I have yet to read through the thread to see if this has already been mentioned, but I think the factor that had the single most impact on the outcome of the election was the fact that she was Biden's sitting VP.

    All things being equal, had they run out pretty much any other candidate - or had Kamala not been the sitting VP - I think the Democrats would have won the day.
     
  12. Sajan

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    At the end of the day people wanted Trump. He could do no wrong. Look at all the things Elon promoted on Twitter. Even dumbass **** like this:


    And they were expecting perfection from the other candidate, which you are not going to get, especially from a lackluster VP thrown in at the last minute.

    Add to that....people who are not educated on the various empty promises, election fraud nonsense, woman, race ambiguity nonsense...it was an uphill battle. Even if she ran a perfect campaign (in 3 months) she wasn't going to win.

    Newsom wasn't going to win either. It would be a case of "they are gonna turn MURICA INTO KOMMIEFORNIA!"
     
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    That's simply not true.
     
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    Kamala was a failure on the issues. For a long time, she wouldn't answer any questions on issues. Then later she would give these big long fluffy responses that didn't answer the questions. Then occasionally she would actually talk about her stance on and issue and it would sound extreme. THIS IS WHY SHE LOST.
     
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  15. No Worries

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    Globally ther has been a huge anti-incumbent movement due to inflation.

    In this election, Kamala was the incumbent.

    As an aside, the right ing echo tunnel (Fox News, majority of the top 20 podcasts) have had R talking points on full blast. The Ds have no similar echo tunnel. As an example, most people think the economy is all right for themselves but are terribly worried that the economy is "bad". Remember the 2022 and then the 2023 and then the 2024 Biden recessions? They never happened but were on full blast in the right wing echo tunnel.
     
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    But aside from Arizona, those Democrats are incumbents.

    And yes, messaging continues to be a major difference. We know the numbers said our inflation was lower than other major economies and our GDP growth outperformed them. They don't care that the vast majority of economists view Trump's plans as more inflationary and increasing deficits. They want to listen to their echo chamber ignoring a lot of the decisions that went on. I'm also convinced that the messaging on all the benefits the government was giving migrants was a huge deal, even though that wasn't the Federal government, but rather some state and local governments giving those benefits.

    Trump advertising is also interesting. Trump's fandom is such a huge source of what happens. It is something you really only see with sports teams.
     
  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Almost anyone would have done better than Kamala. I think she ran behind Warren, Sanders, and Buttigieg by large margins during the 2020 primaries. I blame this on Biden and the Democratic establishment.
     
  18. No Worries

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    But all of the R Congressional House members (who did jack ****) were incumbents. Voters punished the executive branch.
     
  19. No Worries

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    This has been on full blast in the right wing echo tunnel. No deep thinkers there.
     
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