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What value do you think GM's put on the NO pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Nov 30, 2014.

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  1. MrButtocks

    MrButtocks Member

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    If you say so. I think your basketball analysis is fine, but you are clearly unhinged.
     
  2. bmd

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    That is some of the dumbest **** I've ever read on here. You were talking about the Rockets' interest. McHale and Morey flying to Philly to meet with Lowry to discuss playing for the Houston Rockets is certainly interest.

    They don't have to whip out a contract to be interested.
     
  3. jtr

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    Really? I approach everything that cannot be be backed up by actual facts with extreme skepticism. It befits me with my educational background and work experience. If there is only speculation and assumptions supporting an argument then it deserves no consideration. Or even ridicule. Period.
     
  4. bmd

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    That's like saying dating a girl doesn't mean you're interested in her. You are only interested in her once you ask her to be your girlfriend.
     
  5. bmd

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    Then why are you assuming the Rockets were not interested in certain players when there is clear evidence that they were?

    You have to completely ignore the evidence to come up with your own theory that the Rockets weren't really interested and the meetings were a charade.

    It's not impossible... but there is no evidence that supports that.
     
  6. Corrosion

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    You are absolutely right , the offense revolves around Harden scoring or facilitating.

    Thing is , there is no one else on the roster who can break down a defense consistently. Getting a guy who can do that takes some of the pressure off of Harden & makes it much more difficult to double team him .... Not to mention that guy facilitating the offense when Harden goes to the bench.

    That Portland series is another example of the need for a secondary facilitator - they were able to limit the damage Harden was able to do over the course of the series .... having the turnover prone Lin put the nail in the coffin even with Howard playing perhaps his best series.

    Adding that secondary facilitator is somewhat a luxury having Harden to do the heavy lifting .... But one that I feel is almost mandatory to minimize the mileage on him as he's logging a lot of minutes and his style of play puts a lot of wear and tear due to constant contact - Dealing with back spasms now.

    As someone who deals with back issues from being reckless with his body in sports much the same way as Harden , I know what he's going thru there , and being 20+ years later its worse than ever. He'll break down sooner or later .... no matter how tough he is.
    Limiting those minutes & having a secondary facilitator will make him even more effective , keep him fresh & extend his career not to mention making the second unit more effective.
     
  7. jedicro

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    jtr's response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1EFMoRFvY
     
  8. jtr

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    But if they are actually interested a contract offer will be extended. Otherwise it is just a courtesy call. Fantasy is separated from reality by an actual contract offer. There is absolutely no other hard evidence available to fans. If Melo called the Rockets and said he was going to be in Texas do you not believe that Morey would not say come on down and we will talk? Is that actual interest or just hospitality? The actual proof is in the contract offer of course.
     
  9. jtr

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    Please. Do have some respect for me. And do engage in discussions with me with actual verifiable facts. Because that is what I am bringing.
     
  10. bmd

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    If they were just going to have a talk they wouldn't photoshop Melo with a championship trophy and put his picture up on the Toyota Center and have Dwight and Harden try to recruit him and plan a full pitch to try to get him to come here.
     
  11. jedicro

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    I do respect you. The link was just a play on your "contract or bust" view of determines interest.

    The Rockets hung a banner outside Toyota Center of Carmelo Anthony. They had murals of him made in the hallways. They flew to Philly to have the first interview with Lowry. You don't do these things if you're not interested.

    Why didn't we give him a full contract offer? I have no idea. Probably because the talks with him never got to that point. But to claim we werne't interested when we were going hard at those players is ignoring mountains of evidence.

    Surely I don't need to explain occam's razor to you...
     
  12. bmd

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    I have no proof that you are a real human being. In fact, since there is no proof of it, you are most certainly a robot.
     
  13. jtr

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    D-Mo is breaking down defenses on a nightly basis. It has been shown that if Harden is out, the Rockets just feed the beast in the low post. He will score. It will soon start to happen with Harden in the game. Especially if Howard will take the weak side and feast on the available misses and assists and passes at the rim for dunks. Forty plus from the front line starters with the best big defensive protection in the league? Sounds like championship production to me.
     
  14. MrButtocks

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    Your approach is admirable and I'm sure your educational background is exemplary, but it wouldn't cut the mustard in, say, a trial setting where evidence is often circumstantial. If jurors everywhere adopted your approach, they would only accept video evidence and non-circumstantial DNA evidence. Everything else is speculation, including eyewitness testimony.

    The Rockets met with Anthony for a day and plastered the Toyota Center with his image in a Rockets jersey. You credit that to hospitality and not interest just because it does not align with your opinion on what Morey's direction for this team is.
     
  15. jedicro

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    Again I ask, you are willing to bet our title chances on a player who has played well for 11 games? I love the new D-Mo just as much as the next guy, but you're taking optimism to a whole new level.
     
  16. JuckTheFazz!

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    So...did I get this right?

    One guy tries to convince another that a GM meeting up with a Free Agent at midnight is not proof enough to show that he was interested?

    ...And the other guy even bothers to continue this trash conversation?

    Why?? Lmao.
     
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    JuckTheFazz!, asking the important questions since December 2014.

    Welcome to the board.
     
  18. Teen Wolf

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    ALL OF THIS.

    jtr - you do realize Harden can't play 48 mins? we need another wing facilitator. He is not currently on the roster.
     
  19. Teen Wolf

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    Agreed on DMo being the vocal point of the offense when Harden rests. But I don't think Morey is against bringing another wing facilitator to take some of the heavy lifting off of Harden's shoulders. Long term the usage and style of play might run Harden into the ground. If we can get a Dragic on the cheap or in FA i think you do it.
     
  20. ChumpCity

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    Unless KLow told them, thanks for the visit guys but I am going to stay in TOR. Then there is no need for a contract offer, right? The Rockets express interest, but are told it's not going to happen....that doesn't mean it was fantasy.

    I get that you are trying to prove a point, but as others have noted, there are several holes in what you are saying. Although contract offers certainly indicate interest, that is not the end-all-be-all.
     

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