I don't think GS is trading Durant and Klay for Davis and Holiday. In fact, I don't think any serious analysts think that. They can't trade Boogie, he is a fre agent at the end of the season and won't want to be a Pelican again. Nor would Durant want to go there. Also, Butler is not a Knick, Net or Clipper. Which should tell you a lot about what those lists really mean. The team willing to give up the most young assets is Boston. Their big problem is Hayward being on the cap while being a 0 on the court right now. If that changes it makes a big difference for them.
AD hasnt done much in the playoffs. Capela playoff average last year: 12.7 pts 11.6 rebs 30 pts 13.4 Now I know you are saying 30 pts is almost 3x of 12, but remember on the Rox AD would have to share touches with Harden and Cp3. If we look at TS% of AD he is 58.4% and if we look at TS% of CC he is at 65% meaning if we had AD in place of CC and he gets the same touches he will score around the same level. Maybe AD gets 15 pts instead of CC's 12 but is that worth 2x the cost and losing what little depth we have? What the Rox need to do is add to their overall talent, this trade would actually lower the talent of the team for a better version of Capela.
It is overrated now. role players + future picks = superstar When a team trades a superstar, they want an all-star in return.
Realistically, I don't know if Tilman signs off on acquiring AD and his future max deal unless CP3 is part of the trade. As much as Morley and Tilman love CP3, I'll bet they'd both jump at the chance to offload his contract in return for a superstar at the height of his career.
Yes, I do think AD/Harden/Paul/Tucker/MDA/Bzdelik/Morey would beat KD/Curry/Klay/Draymond/Kerr/Brown/Myers if the rest of the rosters consisted of players worth less than a few million each. I think depth has an inverse relationship with the number of elite net positive players (ie superstars) you have. Meaning, depth is very important, but its degree of importance depends on how many heavy lifters you have. This is why we have seen people fawn over Mccaw, Bell, Looney, Jones, etc when these guys are clearly not even top 350-400 players. I think the Warriors would be winning much easier if they were coached by MDA and Bzdelik. I think Harden is the best player on both teams, which imo is important in a series. I think Paul would be devastating in a way that Green/Thompson wouldn't dream (even at this age) if he were the 3rd offensive option. Even Knight and Hill would be serviceable on this theoretical roster, just like Livingston and Jerebko were resurrected on theirs. I understand you don't agree and you believe depth is far more important than I'm making it seem. That's a fair point. More importantly, I was just stating what it would cost to get AD.
Davis averaged 30-13 in last playoffs. I get he's not getting that many touches and scoring opportunities here, but when Harden p&rs or ISOs are well defended, when he's tired, whatever, trust me, to have an offensive alternative like Davis can make the difference, in the playoffs. During the course of a game there are plenty of opportunities to showcase your talent, it's even more important on a 7 game series. I love Clint, but yeah, gimme elite talent and we'll see how we patch Gordon's march. Say Bazemore, say ETtwaun Moore, more minutes for Rivers... that's way easier than getting a player like AD at 26 y.o.
How much of our offense depended on Nene doing that? There is no question we can utilize AD in some form but is that the way we play? We didn't need an extra superstar last year,we needed lady luck.
Bazemore or any other can't fit because you just doubled Capela's salary. Obv it's not just 1v1 trade of Capela it's gonna be Gordon, Capela + maybe 4 firsts for AD at least. I understand Gordon has not been his usual self but he is still a net positive on this team, imagine losing him and Capela for just AD. My point is the net effect of Gordon and Capela for just AD is not that great and you take on a buttload of salary. If your grand experiment fails for example Cp3 gets his hamstring injured then you are left with Brow and Beard and Tucker and vet mins. And then if your experiment fails you can't even get a lotto pick for your troubles since you gave it away. Playoffs? If you have just 4 guys and a bunch of vet mins would be surprised if Cp3 and co. are healthy by the playoffs.
Bazemore or any other can't fit because you just doubled Capela's salary. Obv it's not just 1v1 trade of Capela it's gonna be Gordon, Capela + maybe 4 firsts for AD at least. I understand Gordon has not been his usual self but he is still a net positive on this team, imagine losing him and Capela for just AD. My point is the net effect of Gordon and Capela for just AD is not that great and you take on a buttload of salary. If your grand experiment fails for example Cp3 gets his hamstring injured then you are left with Brow and Beard and Tucker and vet mins. And then if your experiment fails you can't even get a lotto pick for your troubles since you gave it away. Playoffs? If you have just 4 guys and a bunch of vet mins would be surprised if Cp3 and co. are healthy by the playoffs.
What if Cp3, Harden and AD had to play 40 mins a night to get to the playoffs do they still win the series? Because thats what it will take to win every game even if all 3 of them score 30 pts a night those other vet mins have to get 20 pts to win. Its a big reason Lebron had to be the league leader in mons played in Miami. Do AD and Cp3 have Lebron's ironman endurance? I don't think so. Also you forgot Iggy and Boogie who are on the bench for GSW they clearly have more than vet min quality bench players. So GSw doesn't have just 4 stars vs Houston's 3, they would also have a ridiculous bench advantage.
I just don't agree that it would take all those minutes. In fact, I think we would be able to manage their minutes very well. I believe in a knock-on effect which would make everyone else more playable. I don't think that if we had Jerebko or Livingston or Damion Jones or even old man Iggy it would make any difference to where we are right now. Those guys look better than they are because they play around 2 superstars, a DPOY and an excellent 3&d player. I think we would be amazed how Ennis would look on the Warriors, and if he were a Warrior we would have people here acting like we are stupid for not signing him. Instead, we have people acting like we exist in a vacuum.
