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What type of Package would it take....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Le$$, Dec 28, 2018.

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Capella + 4 1ST Would get it done?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Easy

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    Depends on which warm bodies.

    These would do...
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  2. bilaal14

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    I’ve been trying to come up with ways to get rid of Paul’s toxic contract. Help.
     
  3. WolfofHouston

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    I think we'd be surprisingly competitive.

    I wouldnt go 4 1st rounders out the gate. I don't think Boston offers Tatum, and at that point Capela is superior to Ingram and Jaylen even though he's 1-2 years older. Now if Boston offers something like Tatum and more it's tough. Tatum, Rozier, Horford, 2 1sta for AD & Hill. We can't compete. But I don't think Boston is offering Tatum. To them Hayward rolls off when Tatum is due, got great extra draft picks, etc.

    I'm curious what happens to Kyrie and even Rozier. It wouldn't shock me if they didn't want to max out Kyrie, and tried dumping Hayward on a team like us for contracts and a plethora of picks.
     
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  4. roslolian

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    Unless of course Cp3 breaks his hamstring again and AD gets injured playing the C spot which has happened a couple of times already and then you are screwed.

    The reality is these kind of teams don't work out because the money is too much GSW only worked because Curry signed for less than max due to his injury history and then the cupcake snake took a discount to be part of the party. Lebron and co. only worked because Bron is a beast and the 2nd place GOAT. But for other superstars they aren't ironmen like Bron so it is konda suicide.

    I would have been much more ok if we traded EG abd 4 1sts for Butler than AD.

    Talent isn't everything Cp3 for example is more talented than Bev and Lou Will but if we didn't do the Cp3 trade and instead kept those guys and signed Danilo Gallinari like what the Clips did we would be no 1 seed now instead of the Clippers. Gallinari, Lou Will and Bev salary combined still is less than Cp3s max salary.
     
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  5. Nook

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    If Davis wants to play PF, then he can play PF. I can always find a playable center.

    Even if Paul gets hurt, I will win a lot with Harden and Davis and Gordon

    Also, you can keep Beverly and Williams and Galanari, I’ll take Paul come playoff time.

    I’ll take my chances with: Paul/Gordon/Harden/Davis
     
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  6. saleem

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    Just try to get another PG, even Dennis Smith will do, as an additional backup along with Rivers.
     
  7. saleem

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    I replied no, partly because his name is Capela.
     
  8. Vivi

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    Yeah, i'm not sure how great a Celtics offer can be considered if they don't trade Tatum...the Celtics can't trade for Davis this season, they have to wait next summer to do it and:

    - Horford will be expiring, likely to pick up his option, but at 33 with a 30M expiring contract, i'd say he has no value...and in fact might not pick up his option if they want to trade him

    - Hayward with that contract is bad value

    - Brown is good, but is he better than Capela? Not sure

    - SacTown pick is good, likely a lottery pick, but maybe more in the 8/12 range so, not exactly great

    - Grizzlies/Clippers picks are lottery protected so, pretty much as good as our pick

    - Rozier is expiring, wants to get paid and start...i don't really see him as a good asset at this point, NOLA certainly doesn't need him with Holiday and Payton, maybe a third team, but again, he's expiring so, i just don't see how he can be part of a Davis trade, maybe if Ainge moves him during this season for a 1st rounder or a good young player to use later but, i'm not sure a team will pay Rozier that much

    To me, if Ainge doesn't move Tatum, he's not a lock to get Davis. Brown + SacTown pick is a good package, but not better than Capela, Gordon (or whatever Morey would be able to get out of him, like a pick in the 10/20 range) and multiple 1st rounder of an old team. Boston is in the East though, that's probably something to consider.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    Warm enough?

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  10. RocketTheory

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    Let's ride this one out, this team here is better fellas..when they jell it's gonna be nothing nice. We bulked up the team have most wings an four's that length an our style gonna really do damage late in the season...We still the under Dogs I watched alot of people count us out, this team is fu#kin Dangerous...
     
  11. groovemachine

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    No way Capela and picks could land a perpetual MVP candidate.
     
  12. Furious Jam

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    I have read that New Orleans would not trade him to LA for anything out of spite - they believe that LeBron is tampering.

    And Davis can't be traded to Boston this season due to Kyrie's contract.

    If New Orleans wants to start over sooner rather than later, then trading Davis to us for Capela and picks would make the most sense.

    But if New Orleans wants to ride it out and wait to see if Davis will turn down his extension this summer, then Boston is the best option. Personally, I see this second option as the most likely scenario.

    I also tend to disregard LA. Why would Davis want to play with a 33 year old LeBron who is already showing signs of wear & tear? Just because he owns a house in LA? I'm pretty sure James Harden owns a house in LA too, so what?
     
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  13. topfive

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    Of course, in the real world you can't give a player a supermax contract unless they're already on your team.

    But in BigBum Imaginary Sparkle-Glitter Unicornland, anything is possible!
     
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  14. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I mean, if you want to make a crazy offer, you could offer:

    Capela, Gordon, Expiring contracts, 3 first rounders (protections only on the second one)
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    Davis and Solomon Hill

    If anyone is going to be in pole position, it's definitely the Celtics. They own Sacramento's pick which is at 14 right now and likely to get better as the season progresses. Celtics own all their own picks. They have a surplus of good to great young players. Ainge has been reluctant to cash in high value assets but for the opportunity to acquire AD I have no doubt he would be willing to give up Horford, Brown, Rozier and a pick. The Pelicans could probably re-rout Horford to a contender for an expiring and mediocre young asset. Very good haul.

    No one wants to tell the story of how they had a chance to acquire AD and didn't. Pairing him with any superstar is guaranteed title contention for a while. He must, however, play C. After this season, his size will be a defensive problem for his team if he's not playing C. Davis at the 5 and Lebron committed full-time to the 4 would be terrifying for the league, I admit.
     
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    i agree.
    Would love to have AD wearing a rockets uniform but this might be the wrong era due to style of play. Our offense starts from the top and as good as Davis is, not sure how he can efficiently facilitate from the top.
    Some might say dump it down low, but that means adding sophistication to the team's strategy that has a philosophy of simplification. This is also counter intuitive if we want to increase pace.
    He will be limited to the same touches that Clint is getting and paying 200% more for somebody who has a better offensive moves that will not be used that much, might be steep.
     
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    This roster is too expensive with Hill and Knight contracts.
    3 supermax
    2 big bad contracts
    Tucker
    plus 8 incomplete roster charge
     
  17. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    True, but that's the cost of beating a Celtics offer for AD.
     
  18. BigBum

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    In normal practice, a star would give a team 3 preferred destinations.
    Bulter: Knicks, Nets and Clippers.

    Davis could be: Lakers, Celtics and GS.

    GS reporters are talking about the deal on trade deadline next season.
    Durant supermax/Klay Thompson/picks for Davis and Holiday
    Durant supermax/Boogie in bad shape for Davis and Hill
    Boogie starting salary at 6.4 million.
     
  19. anchel

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    Nene has played from the high post since he's been here, specially his first season here he was very effective and that was a tactical weapon we had over Capela when he came in.

    Davis is an MVP caliber player. Don't think just about the last games of Capela, think about having 2 MVP caliber players during the playoffs. Think about the difference of having Davis over Capela in a WCF series.

    I would move Capela and even Gordon if we recieve lets say, Davis+Moore, tomorrow. As much as I love Clint, you don't renounce to MVP caliber players if you can add them.
     
  20. roslolian

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    But how is that supppsed to be better than what we have now lol?

    GSW has 4 allstars in a severely weakened west, how come they aren't 1st seed? Are KD, Curry, Klay and Draymond overrated? Or does it take more than 4 guys and a bunch of scrubs to win? You know who GSW's season saver is? Jonas freaking Jerebko. They needed a vet min player playing out of his mind to save their season. If it weren for JJ I don't know what their record would be roday he fills so many holes for that team.

    This shows the importance of depth, if GSW FO flopped and signed MCW instead of JJ they would be acrewed this season. So even if we have AD, Harden, Cp3 if the rest of the tean are scrubs we still have no chance. Even in the best scenario, our 3 stars would be exhausted in the playoffs.
     

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