With all due respect (this is when you duck! ), you are a bit off. An agnostic believes a god(s) is/are possible, but awaits proof that the being, or beings, exist. It is an absence of faith due to a lack of proof. That's much different than what you are referring to. I'm not sure what you're referring to, maybe someone else can describe it! Keep D&D Civil.
You're a Jew4Jesus? I'm a little bit country, a little bit rock 'n roll. actually, i'm agressively agnostic, but i know good and evil when i see it- i just have trouble with the whole worship thing, unless we're talking about a 6' blond fraulein, with patent leather thigh-highs...
Yeah, so wouldn't that be like a branch of atheism? If science proved God was the sun, I'm sure a lot of atheists and all agnostics would convert to Sunshineism. I also wonder what the name to what furious jam is describing. Vanilla theism?
I didn't know which to put. Is agnosticism a religion? I might be considered to be following a peculiar version of Christianity, since I still follow what I consider its fine ethical system. Of course, I vehementy believe THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT IS NEITHER.
Wrong. I don't know who told you that, but agnostics are defined by the notion that ideas of God or gods are unknowable, like all other things. The agnostic neither believe in god ("or something like god") nor disbelieves. Further, he (or at least I) finds such certainty about inherently unknowable things to be weird, and regards people who are certain that there is no God to be as bizarre as those who are certain there is one. You say it's tough to be an atheist but you're exactly like people who are certain of God's existence. You want your guess to be a fact while your guess is as much a matter of 'faith' as the guesses of those with whom you most disagree. I am an agnostic because I know that I know nothing. You are an atheist because you believe you do know something, even while that something is unknowable by definition. The life of an atheist might be hard for you, but you chose it. Worse, you seem to lack understanding of it. And your choice with regard to this reflects a lack of humility and an abundance of arrogance. Either that or you're an agnostic and you just don't know it. There are dictionaries online these days. Look it up.
Deckard: Sorry, but I think your definition of agnosticism is off too. Agnosticism is a position of humility, not skepticism. We do not await proof in order to believe. And we do not eschew faith. We simply believe that we cannot know unknowable things and, in the face of that, refuse to assert authority while guessing. As such, the answer to all unanswerable questions is "maybe." Or "maybe not." I'm a Jew because I was raised up Jewish. And because I don't have a single problem with any of the ideals or tenets outlined in the Jewish faith. I am a little bit Christian because I agree with virtually every thing that Christ was said to have said (even while those things apparently didn't get written down until around 100 years after he died and were surely not his actual words). The words that have been ascribed to thim though resonate with me. And I try to live my life in the ways Christians are meant to, even though I fail at that always (also a Christian idea). I am sort of Buddhist in various ways and, in fact, if I were to choose a faith that comes closest to the one by which I live (because Agnosticism is not a "faith"), Buddhism would make the most sense to me.
What would you call the perspective of person 2 in this interaction: Person #1: Do you believe that some supreme being exists? Person #2: I don't care if one exists or not. ?
Then I'm a skeptical agnostic. No apologies necessary. Besides, we're probably all decended from aliens, who could seem like gods. What would a god be, anyway? Merely a being more evolved than we are? That wouldn't be a difficult trick to pull off. Keep D&D Civil.
I voted Christian. But since that can mean anything and I rarely post serious enough here I'll explain... 27 yrs ago Jesus Christ revealed Himself to me. I don't know how He did it, but He revealed His love for me. I can't explain it but I know it happened. I love Jesus and I cannot see Him or touch Him or hear Him or taste or smell Him. My physical world does not provide me the reality of His love and life. As a self centered, prideful, self serving, deceitful, greedy, and self loving person it was quite a shock to have this love of Jesus Christ revealed to me. Since I have not 'improved' I am still awed by the love and forgiveness shown to me, I am very much a spiritual beggar receiving a very undeserving abundance of love from a supremely patient and gracious God. I have been given as a gift a clear view of God's own Son suffering a painful penalty, I have 'seen' clearly in my heart my own rejection of God and I have 'seen' clearly His response- Jesus took my just and deserving punishment for crimes against the one true God. I wish I could explain it better, and I wish even more I could share it. I can only say this about the God I have come to know- to die for mankind's sin Lord, how blameless you have been. Jesus loves me this I know.
I believe that Jesus was the son of God in the same way that we all are. IMO, he is our brother and happened to have a very strong connection to God that allowed him to understand God better than the rest of us. That is what made him a prophet. I voted Buddhist/Other because Buddhism is the closest of the mainstream religions to my personal spiritual beliefs, though none of them hit it on the head for me.
I have no idea anymore. Sometimes this bothers me. Other times I think it a very healthy place to be. I didn't vote in the poll.
I believe in Physics,Chemistry, Biology and Entropy in so far as we have the ability to perceive it and understand it at this point Why anyone would would perceive man as anything more than a organic machine processing stimuli and response with a finite period of functioning is unfathomable to me. I live with the thought that most of the planet's humanity is insanely delusional. If you want to develop a a humane ehtical system fine, but why do they all require mysticism in the 21st century? Why has understanding been left out of religion? If you want to give me the "cause without a cause" argument, why do you insist that the cause be anthropomorphic or omnipotent?
Because people want to believe that a part of them is permanent and will last forever. Our egos tricks us all, even you when you perceive "yourself" as a organic machine that is independent from the cosmos.
