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What player(s) that Morey wants to spend the MLE on is better than Landry?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 10, 2008.

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  1. stonecold999

    stonecold999 Member

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    use MLE to sign Landry, but then we will have 4 power forward.. scola, hayes, landry, and dorsey.... can we use one of them with luther, bobby jackson to get a good back up PG? ... any good back up PG in mind?
     
  2. glimmertwins

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    I like Childress too but I don't think it's realistic to expect him to be signed by the Rockets - especially when the Clippers & Warriors both just lost their Max contract guys and are in no mans land stuck between having a little money aside, putting together a competitive team, and rebuilding. A young guy like Childress makes sense for both those teams and they have a lot more money to spend than Houston does. Memphis might also break their promise to not spend this year in order to pick up some more young talent.

    ...the other big thing is Josh Smith - if the Clippers or Memphis manage to push the price too high for Atlanta to match then their first priority is not let Childress walk out the door too. It sucks to be Atlanta with all that talent because although they have the money right now, they know they are going to have to lock up more of their young guys each year - Horford being the next big one to negotiate so they have to make sure to be very frugal with who they sign so they can get all their young core guys in long term deals.
     
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    Keyon Dooling would be a nice fit.
     
  4. DrJB25

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    I second that notion!! Keyon dooling is a good back up and plays excellent D
     
  5. ooliverb1

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    Absolutely, there is nothing wrong with paying MLE for the starting Power Forward of your team.





    Wait! Landry is not the starting Power Forward.
     
  6. BimaThug

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    But the only teams who could possibly offer ONLY a first round pick are either teams under the salary cap (which will end up only being Memphis, who doesn't want to spend its cap space) or teams with large trade exceptions (which may be very few and also unwilling to take the luxury tax hit). Odds are that no such trade could be made. Meanwhile, the Hawks would be strapped for cash, having to pay all of their talented young players.

    The Warriors already spent their cap room on Corey Maggette (5yrs/$50M) and an offer sheet to Ronny Turiaf (4yrs/$17M, which the Lakers won't match). The Clippers have tons of room, though. If they lose out on Josh Smith, they very well could make a run at Childress for more than the MLE.

    That being said, the Clips are the only team (other than the Hawks, of course) who could/would throw more than the full MLE at Childress. If neither do, then he MIGHT be had for the Rockets' full MLE. I never said it was LIKELY, but it is at least POSSIBLE and much more probable than many of the pipe dreams for stars that others on this BBS have.
     
  7. saleem

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    Good post. I really liked the pipe dreams part! :D
     
  8. W22_STREAK

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    I asked Jonathon Feigen a question on whether the Rockets would be trying to land another decent bench player FA if they are able to secure Landry for example half the MLE or thereabouts, Feigen said:"no, as they wouldn't have the roster space for him, but its possible if they are to make a trade clearing roster spots".

    btw, most of the guys from the 2nd round of the 2006 draft where we got Steve Novak from are not even in the league anymore...expect the same from Novak soon...I think his game will be pretty decent in Europe tho...all these white guys get contracts from overseas anyways...didnt gordan giricek get a lucrative contract for next season and beyond?
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    How about them signing him at MLE, and decide at the deadline whether to keep him or trade him at the deadline for an expiring contract and a pick. They get to use him and evaluate their choices for most of the season and then they essentially get a pick for taking on, say, a Bobby Jackson's salary for the remainder of season (which salary woudln't affect any of their future flexibility).

    Else once the offseason hits, there will be more teams with cap space when a bunch of contracts expire.

    I don't think it's really that risky. Their future young player obligations (Horford, etc) are coming up, but not this year.
     
  10. ubigred

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    Landry= product of tmac

    If Landry is asking for too much let him walk! Injury prone players are not the motto of the Rockets.

    Use part of the MLE to sign evans or jr smith and Josh Childress.
     
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  11. fuzzy88

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    Landry's decision does NOT matter - he is a Restricted Free Agent, which means Rox has the right to match any offer and retain Landry. Landry has NO right to choose.

    Pretty sad, I know, but how many of us would love to play and make $1M a year, even if we get sent to Saskatchewan? (No offense, Canadian readers :) )
     
  12. Desert Scar

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    Keep this in mind when evaluating his PER and other stats, which admittedly, were solid.

    Landry is nearly 25 with an injury history, had zero starts (menaing he played against backups) and played 18% of our teams minutes last year (contrast that with other role/rotation players like Scola 51%, Battier 74%, Rafer, 64%, Hayes 40%, Head 35%). It has happened plenty of times that guys do well their rook years or for short bursts, cash it in for contracts, and then teams figure them out where they are never worth that contract (Marquis Daniels and Flip Murray are two egregious examples) .

    Anything over Scola contract (3 years 10 mil to a mature international superstar professional) is shaky ground for Landry. I am hoping 3 years 7 mil range. Give him a player option on year 3 and that is more than fair to him, that is better than all but #6 or higher draft picks get. It also is higher per season and more flexible situation than Hayes (locked into 4 years believe), but not quite to Scola's contract.
     
  13. glimmertwins

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    True - agreed that it's possible. Also I totally agree about the pipe dreams too...I'm just waiting for the post where someone says Lebron might take less money in 2010 to come play for Houston - everyone keep an eye out for that post because it deserves an instant ban. :rolleyes:
     
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    JR Smith or Childress would be better on this team for mle money. Why? Those 2 can fill in for the rox most valuable player, tracy. If scola misses games, the rox won 52 games with chuck hayes. Tracy misses some games we have no one can come close to anything he does. At least Smith can score and childress can do a little of everything.
     
  15. Knight

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    Not necessarily. For example, if the Pacers really want Landry, and wanted him at only 2/3 of the MLE, they can always call the Rockets and offer a first rounder to the Rockets. In return, the Rockets will agree not to match any offer from the Pacers.

    So in that sense, the Rockets have essentially traded Landry for a first rounder.
     
  16. wireonfire

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    Both the bucks and the pacers need PF and Landry is kinda hometown boy to them.
     
  17. BimaThug

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    I wasn't talking about Landry. I was referring to why the Hawks would not want to match a full MLE offer for Childress if they already match a ridiculous offer for Josh Smith and are strapped for cash. Take a look at the back-and-forth between me and Carl Herrara.
     
  18. Knight

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    Ahhh okies... :)
    Carry on!
     
  19. abc2007

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    Have they made an offer yet?!

     
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    Lets see who would i give part mle to instead of gimpy leg landry............

    three players come to my mind who could all be had for the cheap

    1) Maurice evans ......love his size, strength, D, and shot......would be awesome of the bench

    2) Matt Barnes..........love his shot and his athletisim at the 2.....good spacin.....and he attacks the basket

    with JR Smith coming in at a distant third but still a good consolation prize none the less.................

    youth, athletisim........without the injury problems.........

    I love what Landry gave us last year.....but lets be serious.....he is not gonna be our startin power forward next season..........

    And i have a real problem paying 5.6 milli a year to a bench player .........who I am not even sure is the same player he was last seaon..........I know what scola is bringin next seaon

    Landry was not the same after the knee bug last season.......so whats the logic of 5 and a half million for him.....help me see it....cuz i really dont.......

    If another team wants him so bad....why are we not seeing offers to match?????.............morey is playin this perfectly.......

    I would give him a take it or leave it deal so fast his head would spin.....
     

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