What player(s) that Morey wants to spend the MLE on is better than Landry?

This is exactly correct. There is nobody out there more valuable than Landry that would take the MLE. There is no reason for Morey to get in a hurry. He will wait until Landry gets an offer and then he will match it, whether it be the MLE or less.

The only way to get Landry to sign right now is to offer him the full MLE. Morey was on the radio this morning saying that it would be nice to have some MLE money left to use during the season. I think his hope is that Landry will not get an MLE offer and then we will give him a half of the MLE offer which he will have to accept, because he's not rich enough to hold out.

Landry is an integral part of the rotation and we will keep him. Scola is foul prone and Dorsey is unproven. Morey will pay the full MLE if he has to.

 

Its simple to see whether ROx is in danger of losing Landry.

I think wif philly getting hteir big man, the pacers are the next closest suitors for a PF. So what would they offer? Are they a threat? To answer this, we have to look at their cap structure and players in contract.

First of all, they can only offer the up to the MLE, because they're over the cap. So are they well equipped in the other positions to sign a player with the full MLE? It appears so.

They already have 12 players under contract. And aside from the PF spot, they seem well equipped. Got good PGs in ford , tinsley and j.jack. got good swingman in granger, dunleavy, m.daniels. So they need big man.

I really hope the grudge between morey and landry's crappy agent b.baker(or whatever his name is) is not going to translate into a poor decision by Landry like wht happened to varajao last year.

 

Also, if you look at our situation, we really don't have any desperate need across the roster that justifies us spending part of the MLE on a player at the risk of losing landry. Not even a player at the swing position, because all we're gonna get is crap in the free agent market.

 

So, what happens if Landry gets an offer for, say, 3/4 of the MLE from another team. Do the Rockets match it without him getting that knee tested? That's another factor in these negotiations.

 

I guess that would depend on how much they are really concerned about it... and probably how many years the contract match would be.

I would imagine they have an idea of the true state of his health, but in the short term. The tests that they ran during the season, from my understanding were, "Can he play now?" tests. Rather than a comprehensive, "Is he going to last at 82 games for 3 three years?" tests.

It's a good question though.

 

Landry is trouble in the making wait until his next contract situation comes up.....he has not played enough for anyone to offer him that kind of money.

I realize that its been a while since this team has been a true athlete.....but the last true athlete to blow me away was Frances and how is he doing after a knee problem?

I say package him with Batman or Bobby and get some worth....but do not cap strap this team with a guy who has not actually played 36 MINUTES yet or atleast enough times for us to artificially create those stats. If he is not good enough to take Scolas spot that should say everything.

 

I couldn't agree more. With the Hawks' fractured ownership group, it will be interesting to see if they match a ridiculous offer from the Clippers (assuming one is made) on Josh Smith. If they do, they may shy away from signing Childress (yet another swingman on their roster) to a large, long-term deal, even if it is for the full MLE and reasonable deal for a player of Childress's caliber.

Josh Childress is one of the most underrated players in the NBA. He is an excellent sixth man for the Hawks and would be the same for the Rockets. Efficient player. Does just about everything on the court reasonably well, although nothing great. A solid rotation player on a winning ballclub.

Childress is the only player (that the Rockets could REASONABLY get, and then only because of Atlanta's crappy ownership) I would offer the full MLE to in this market.

 

posey will be a great signning.

With yao back, dorsey expected to get his minutes, scola doing his job. I doubt there will be an upsurge of production from landry.

while posey will be infront of players like Mike harris and steve novak, both PFs who are force to play SF because of size or power.

For me, posey>landry.

 

someone help me here, but i think morey demands a test mainly as a tactic in free agency. The likely demand probably spur from the fact that landry's agent is not willing to accept a 10mil/3 yr deal but instead demands a 5MIL deal. Morey said the only way hes paying that is if landry get a scope, which morey knows landry will not do.

 

The tests are indeed a factor because it's a negotiating ploy. If Landry signs with anyone else he'll have to pass the same tests since Morey put the doubt out there. Landry had one great game after the knee-bump occured last year and he missed all those games. Then he had one big game in the playoffs.

It was clasic rookie-wall syndrome.

This call on Landry is a gamble, but it's one we can't afford to lose right now.

 

As i said before,we need a shooter,now that we have got Barry ,but no one can speculate how many games will the 36year old guy play next season.BEsides ,no one can guarantee his health.We need a youger shooter ,like JR,Who is well worth the MLE.Signing JR with MLE should be a Bargain.

 

Easily tradable for what, though? The Hawks would only want to trade Childress to avoid potential luxury tax exposure or to generally reduce salary. If that's what they would want, then why match in the first place? It would totally be a money thing, not a basketball thing. While I agree with you that it would the smart thing for the Hawks to match, I doubt the ability of the Hawks' fractured ownership to reach a consensus to match.

Barry was signed to be our primary shooter off the bench. If all the Rockets need in that department now is an insurance policy for a Barry injury, then that is what Luther Head is for. Why spend MLE dollars on a third string shooter when you already have a player who fits that role (however terrible he is in the playoffs). Plus, as someone indicated earlier in this thread, Morey would rather hold onto some of the MLE to make a late season push for a veteran who gets bought out (just like Barry did last March).

 

Agreed. Just because there is no other player out there that we think is worth the full MLE, doesn't mean we should just throw it all at Landry. That's not good accounting. I think Morey would like to have some leftover money just in case, and in a perfect world he'd get Landry to sign a shorter deal witha team option for the 3rd or 4th year. It also doesn't help that Landry's agent doesn't seem to be the brightest guy in the world.

 

I say sign Landry to 3 mil per, and give the other 2 to a guy like Matt Barnes.

Trade Novak, Head, and B.Jax in a 3 for one deal.

 

If Landry is in high demand why has he not received any offers for his services from other teams? I am sure by now someone should have come out and given him an offer.

 

Because Morey may be telling the truth about matching any offer?

Nah, Morey's fibbing about that and is dead serious about not being sure about Landry's knee?

No one talks about why Morey didn't blow off Landry after his agent went... weird.

Morey was right and still is. We have a valuable asset and no one's getting him for nothing. We can't S&T him immediately after signing him, and we don't want to.

I've never seen so many guys around here get neurotic about not getting a new full MLE guy over the summer. For the 1st time ever I'm compiling a list about a topic here because people refuse to see the obvious:

Management loves Landry, and you should too. Even if he gets overpaid.

 

Landry should fire his agent. I mean if he hasn't gotten him a MLE when Diop and Turiaf gets paid handsomely then something is not right.