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What makes Steve Francis better than Cuttino Mobley?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Woofer

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    Re: comparing
    Because Cat can do what Steve does?
    Re: boneheadedness
    I can put up more with Cat's boneheadedness since he doesn't have a max contract to match, and his nickname isn't "the human turnover".
     
  2. Easy

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    A friend who plays a lot of basketball recently told my kids (who are aspiring to be good basketball players): Always practice your shot. If you can shoot, you can play with anybody. There will always be someone faster, taller, or more athletic than you. But if you can shoot, you can still compete.

    How true. Cat is simply a better shooter than Steve. He, therefore, is a more effective off-ball player than Steve.

    Steve is clearly more talented. He can create his shot much better than Cat. But he is not as consistent as Cat in shooting. His scoring ability lies in his ability to break down the defense on dribble and explode to the hoop. Under JVG's system, where he reigns in the free-wheeling game and asks the players to hold on to the ball less, Steve's weaknesses are magnified. He has to hold on to the ball for a long time to create.
     
  3. ricerocket

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    Everybody forgets that Cat used to be a bad PG in a 2 guard body when we got him too... :eek:
     
  4. Toast

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    What makes Yao better than Piatkowski?

    Why do we have to play this game? I'd rather compare them to their own capabilities than each other.

    Steve needs to shoot better. Steve needs to protect the ball better. Doing those things wouldn't necessarily make him better than Cat, but they'll make him play more to the level he's capable of playing.
     
  5. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Actually Cat was a 2 guard that Rudy put in as a PG because he had no other choice. He never wanted to play the one, he was put there because the only other choices were Bryce Drew and Brent Price.
     
  6. ricerocket

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    Kind of like Sf in there because of bad choices Moochie and Wilks?
     
  7. crash5179

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    Hey don't act like I've never said anything good about him. He used to be my favorite player in the league.

    But of course if you can't discuss the pros and cons of someones game with out thinking that they are being bashed then that is certainly not my problem.
     
  8. crash5179

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    Not exactly.

    Steve aspires to be a point guard and the Rockets have yet to give up on that experiment. Even after 4 years of no play-offs and little noticable improvements from Steve.
     
  9. Yetti

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    Moochie is not a Rocket and Wilks shows signs that he is more of a Point Guard than the Franchise is.
     
  10. ricerocket

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    What majes Steve better?

    Athleticism. And Cat is no slouch!

    I think Steve would close the gap in shooting if he was relegated to being a shooting guard. I'm not advocating that yet, I/m advocating that we do not need a shooting guard per se... yet.
     
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    for the millionith time, just get it over with and trade steve.:D
     
  12. gucci888

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    Steve Francis isn't having his best year, especially shooting %. But the fact is that the Rockets fall apart without Steve in the game and they always have.

    The reason I was so happy when Mooch got traded is because the Rockets finally realized that everything fell apart when he was in. We play a lot better when Steve is in the game, even when he is playing bad, leads got lost or shortened when Mooch was in, period.

    What makes Steve better than Cuttino? Teams concentrate on how to stop Yao and Steve, usually being double teamed or an immediate crash in the paint when SF drives in (leaving Cat, JJ, Pike, open on the outside).

    Even though Steve is struggling on his decision making, teams still concentrate on how to stop him, and that alone makes him more dangerous than Cat.

    When Steves timing gets down, and gets use to the new system, things will be fine, things will start to be more fluid.

    *Part of why Cat is good, is because his fellow backcourt teamate requires the attention of the opponent. E.G. Look at Jordan and Pippen (not comparing to the players but the situation), teams concentrated soooo much on stopping Jordan that they often abandon their assignment to help out.

    BTW, I love the Rockets
     
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    I am glad you can come to that conclusion after a whole 8 minutes of playing time. But I keep forgetting that people change thier minds around here after every game played.
     
  14. farhan007

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    isnt that the same thing the roxs are doing now?
     
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    Not true at all. Cat had his best year 2 years ago when Francis was out due to the migraines and shoulder. His shooting percentage was exactly the same as this year and he average almost 22 points a game. Cat can create for himself which was why people ragged on him. Cat scores more in the flow this year and can create his own shot when needed.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    No, Francis chose to play PG. If that wasn't the case, he would still be in Vancouver.
     
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    This team is undoubtedly top 7 lottery pick caliber without Steve even this year.

    Man, this is pathetic. Last year - or any other year for that matter - this thread would have been laughed out of the building.
     
  18. Lemarc

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    Cant argue with anything he said becuz its all true. Steve can no longer continue to disappear in the fourth quarters of games. We cant win like that anymore.
     
  19. ayears

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    Right on!
     
  20. Mexican_Moose

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    It doesnt matter who is better as long as we win



    -Its all good!
     

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