Are you really so clueless that you don't know how good we have it compared to others, or are you just trying to toss out pointless zingers? My god, two other western conference powerhouses just lost thier "in thier prime" superstars because of r****ded management. Last year, two eastern conference teams lost thier "in thier prime" superstars because of stupid management. Phoenix bungled a potential dynasty by nickeling and diming drafts throughout the decade. Portland's r****ded management destroyed thier superstars knee by rushing him back after surgery. New Orleans/Orlando are next up on the "lose your superstar" list. Spoiled petulant children.
Wait, what? You only have two options when your faced with the circumstances that Denver and Toronto were in. You're saying it was stupid to do EITHER option? What were they supposed to do? Translation: Your superstar refuses to sign an extension: Toronto keeps their star in hopes he'll re-sign and loses him. You say it was because of their stupid management. Denver decides to trade their star so that they get more in return than what Toronto did. You say it was because of their r****ded management? What were they supposed to do that wouldn't be stupid?
Build a competent team? Cleveland wouldn't give up JJ freaking Hickson for Amare Stoudemire. JJ FREAKING HICKSON Who were the 2nd best players on those teams?
I agree about Cleveland -- have said as much to the many Cavs fans I have. I understand why they may have thought being cautious was wise (best record in the league, uncertainty with LBJ).. but when you get a chance for a ring, you go all-in. That said, I was talking more about Toronto/Denver, who I assumed you were partly referring to. I think Denver, and to a lesser extent Utah, did the right thing.
LMFAO, I've been a Rockets fan since 1979 - please don't tell me "how good we have it" coming off the worst decade-plus span sicne the team was playing at Hofheinz.
Toronto, Utah and Denver all traded away rotation players for money. They (Utah/Denver) did the right thing given the circumstances, but they both made HUGE mistakes in the building process. I am sure if you keep complaining about SOMEONE will eventually give you a lollipop.
Get over yourself. Nearly every team you just listed is in a better situation than we are and have been for some time now. Who cares if they have lost (or MIGHT lose) their superstars? Most of them were (or have been) on their respective teams for several years before moving on.
I'm not "complaining" I'm simply stating reality. It's not Daryl's fault that we've been bad to mediocre to fleetingly good for breif spans. He inherited a flawed team, that remains flawed. And he's had horrible luck. It might not even be Leslie or Carroll's - but the fact that they sucked is reality - for every crappy franchise move you're mentioning above, many other franchises (who we would have scoffed at as laughingstocks) have completely reinvented themselves in the same time period that the Rockets have largely been stuck in neutral. I hate to use a cliche, but it is what it is - and the Rockets are in the same place they were in the late 90's, with very little to show for the past 15 seasons
If healthy this team is better than what standings show. With this lineup Yao/Scola/Battier/Martin/Brooks can make playoffs easily. Just like Morey, we assumed Yao will come back strong. Brooks won MIP and like morey we hoped he would breakout with career high numbers, but hes been the biggest Rockets disappointment. Martin a proven scorer and no explanation needed what Scola n Battier can do, this team was at least in top 6 in west imo. Also morey made the bench stronger by adding Miller, Patterson, Lee, Budinger, Lowry n hayes. Morey cant control injuries and Brooks weak showing. Even with such faults, Rockets are still 27-31 with no superstars. Some teams like Lakers and Miami got lucky but its not easy to trade to get superstars. Give some credit.
LOL, you assumed that but I sure didn't and neither did the Rockets (which is why they were trying to get a superstar to replace him for at least 2 years now. - it just hasn't worked)
Executive Summary: Morey has made moves that have created excitement and at the time seem like a stroke of genius. However, none of his great moves have panned out for the Rockets. It's definitely a hit/miss and more often a miss. He's missed more than hit.
I'm not sure if I believe that. We definitely wanted a superstar, but I'd say it was more to replace Tracy than Yao. While I agree the Rockets probably didn't expect him to come back "strong," I don't see any indication that they didn't expect him to still be a top 5-10 center that they could pair up with a "new McGrady." Also, I don't think that really seemed to be a priority until last year's trade deadline. What superstars were we going after two years ago?
Plenty of us didn't assume Yao would be back strong. Building yet again on Yao this year is one of Morey's biggest mistakes. And fair or not fair, part of a GM's job is to predict how players will play. Morey was dead wrong on how the current players would play, he overvalued almost all of them. But the biggest knock on Morey so far is recruiting. Recruiting is a BIG part of being an NBA GM. That's why so many GMs are former NBA players or NBA guys who have been around the league for decades, not stat geeks. When you meet with a star player and try to sell him on a city, it helps if you already have a relationship with the player, are friends with him, can sell him on a city, etc. Morey has failed at recruiting every target he has gone after except Trevor Ariza, who he just shipped out the next season anyway. All players do right now is use the Rockets as leverage to get better offers from other teams, which is ironic since that is how Morey uses our players -- as assets and not people.
So let me get this straight. People were complaining about Morey. I defended him by saying he has been nails and other teams have been a disaster. You chime in on some tangent thats irrelevent, we have a back and forth, and you ultimately repeat the same point I originally made back to me. Quality posting Fisher.
I like DM. I think he is very aggressive and thats what we need if we want to become legit in the future. He is not in love with anyone on our team and that is important if you are trying to build a franchise. Do not show favoritism, unless a player has earned it.
