What makes a superstar? Are Tracy and Yao superstars?

i shouldn't respond to you if you bring up mike james to compare to tmac.

 

Mike James in 05-06 had less points, less rebounds, less assists, less blocks, less steals, and more turnovers...

Mike James had better shooting percentages.

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Mike James 05-06
PPG: 20.3
RPG: 3.3
APG: 5.8
TPG: 2.6
BPG: 0.0
SPG: 0.9


Tracy McGrady 05-06
PPG: 21.6
RPG: 5.1
APG: 5.9
TPG: 2.4
BPG: .5
SPG: 1.0

 

Whether you like it or not, it was a valid and appropriate comparison. If you dont have a logical rebuttal, theres no need for you to respond to me.

 

His numbers may be slightly less than Tmac's, but his shooting percentages are MUCH better. In my opinion, this means he had a better statistical year.

 

so are you saying dwight howard is 10x better than yao ming?

b/c he destroys yao in rebounding and fg% by a LARGE margin?

stop looking at stats and watch the games.

tmac's stats actually contribute to the team winning. did the raptors make the playoffs when mike james was there? you really are making a fool of yourself.

if stats are so great, dwayne wade had a better season than tmac?

 

Ummm. This makes no sense. Shooting percentages do not make up for being worse in six statistical categories.

 

For future reference, when you reply to my post, please read what I wrote in my post. And then read it again. And then again. Basically, read it until you understand what I wrote so you wont continue to put words in my mouth.

I clearly said that Mike James' percentages give him a better statistical season in my opinion. I never said it made him a better player.

Also, your original contention was that Tmac was a superstar based on his stats in the playoffs. My comparison illustrates the point that stats arent everything.

And I did watch the games. I watched him score 1 pt in the combined 4th quarters of game 1 and 2.

 

go figure, a rookie blabbering stats about the Rockets that you never watched.
That 1994 Team had the 2nd best record in the NBA, the league MVP, and now we know how awesome Horry/Cassell players.

The 1994 maybe the very best NBA champions ever.

No one in league history can stop the Dream.

**** YOUR STATS! Hitting 3 pointers when IT COUNTS is the most important stat.

THE CHAMPIONSHIP IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT.

 

so mike james shot better than tmac and beats him in ONE category allowed him to have a better statistical season?

tmac's stats alone didn't make him a superstar. it was how he had to carry the team and how he was able to carry the team that made him a superstar. he played without the best center and a very good PG for most of the series.

PS - in games 1 and 2, he didn't have rafer alston so he did everything -> fatigue. notice how he played better in the 4th when rafer comes back

nobody can do everything for 4 quarters. we saw a "durable" kobe fatigued down the stretch v. the same jazz team in game 1 after 24 pts in the first half. you do know there's a thing called FATIGUE if you have to do too much.

without rafer, he was doing 2-3 people's jobs.

 

Actually, it does. Mike James shot 15% better in ft% and 3pt%. He shot 5% better in overall fg%. Those are huge disparities.

And in those 6 statistical catetories, tmac was:

+1.6 pts
+1.8 rpg
+0.1 apg
+0.2 turnovers/game
+0.5 blocks
+0.1 steals

So yes, tmac had better numbers, but only by a narrow margin.

 

yeah I saw that crap.

you want stats here's my stat about that 1994 team:


here's another stat:


have another stat:


here's one too:


and another:

 

Let me give you a hint WEKKO,

Basketball is played on the court, not on the boxscore.
You are comparing TMAC to MIKE JAMES??

MIKE JAMES???? he's getting GARBAGE TIME with the Hornets.

Try watching some basketball.

Oh, yeah, I'm going to bury you with stats for talking ***** about the 1994 Championship Team. The FIRST EVER CHAMPIONS in the city of HOUSTON.

 

Show me another "superstar" who noticeably gets tired and disappears.

I watched the game. I didnt see him get fatigued anywhere close to the level that Tmac gets fatigued. You'll probably try to counter with something like "tmac had to carry the entire offensive load". But don't forget, Kobe's defense is much more intense than Tmac's.

 

i guess you can count the double/triple teams in boxscores, the # of times a guy creates for his teammates, how he makes the game easier for his teammates...

but since he said mike james had a better season, what can i say?

 

I'm going to bury you with STATS, FAKE FAN WEKKO368.

Here's some stats for you to read up on.

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don't worry dude. I'm going to bury Wekko in stats.

 

wekko, are you saying kobe's D in this year's playoffs is better than tmac's? if you say yes, please, i know for sure then you didn't watch any of the playoffs.

tmac was our best defender in the jazz series. he has been a better defender than kobe. he has been asked to do more than kobe (scoring, playmaking, rebounding, passing). he has done rafer's job a lot of times, he also had to do battier's job b/c battier couldn't guard harpring and ak..

kobe's job is to score (and he's the best at that).

and notice how much space kobe got in game 1 v. utah? now watch our games v. utah and see who got more defensive attention? tmac was doubled/tripled heavily in the first 2 games.

 

Here's a stat:

ONE BLOCK

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i don't know why you even respond to his championship team references. those guys are on the supernova level that i wouldn't respond to something like that.

tmac is not on that supernova level yet so he can be talked about lol

 

I posted stats about the 1994 rockets. Undisputable stats that demonstrated hakeem's greatness. I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings.

There was a contention made that tmac should be considered a superstar due to his 2008 playoff stats (which werent that much better than his regular season stats). I brought up Mike James' 2006 stats to show that stats alone does not make a superstar.

In my opinion, Mike James wasnt a superstar in 2006 and Tmac wasnt one in 2008.