What makes a superstar? Are Tracy and Yao superstars?

how the hell do you consider wade and KG superstars?

KG didn't carry his team over the freakin' hawks man. he shot 44% v. josh smith. he's winning simply b/c he's on an extremely talented team. and he chokes more than tmac.

wade led his team to the absolute worst record in the L. that is not a superstar to me.

 

Ok now after really looking and thinking about it ... I think there's only 4 REAL SUPERSTAR IN THE NBA RIGHT NOW.

 

i don't think tim duncan is a full superstar anymore by your standards. he's no longer the dominant offensive force that can carry teams (1-9 for 5 pts in a playoff game -> a superstar would NEVER do that). by our list, he's on the "was" category.

the only 3 true superstars are kobe, lebron, and paul (going by your standards here)

 

True. But I'll just leave him there for now since he has 4 rings and goin' for his 5th.

If NO takes them out this series then it'll be different.

 

Luckyazn is right.

 

In recent two-three years, Yao played like a true super star for about 20-30 games, so does T-Mac. Something keep them from being the true super star. I think the true super star should shine in majority of the games, and when the play poorly in one aspect, they contribute in the others. They should rarely played poorly in all categories. The most important thing is, a true supre start is who works very hard and never give up.

I think both are close to real super start.
Talent wise, T-Mac is closer. He was like super super star in the past in some games, but not consistent enough for a whole playoff series yet.
Mental strength/toughness wise, Yao is closer. But Yao is more limited by his some of his physical conditions. Staying healthy is his first priority now. And if his latteral movement can be faster, that would be great and improve his game tremendously. (well I don't think TD has really good vertical but his latteral movement is very quick).

 

So MVP candidates are superstars maybe? (Excluding Wade of course) I'd still like to know exactly what the criteria is for MVP versus, say, best player in the league.

 

If you can play for super super star level for 2-30 games you are not a superstar.

 

Well the standards people have here are contradictory.

Everyone loves KG, why, because of his passion for the game. The reason he is respected so much is because his passion for the game is obvious to everyone, and everyone loves him for that. But KG cannot carry a team alone. He is a very good player no doubt, but if KG is to be put on the true "superstar" list, so will McGrady.

Now I am not saying Yao is not a superstar, but it is evident that a center will always need another star level player along side to be dominate. I don't think there is ever a lone center in the league who could win championships without another superstar/all-star player by their side. Even Hakeem had tons of help. So if we are to put McGrady and Yao together. Including injuries these two players are still superstars for at least another 2-3 years.

Excluding injuries and estimating the results from the 12 game win streak where these two players were pretty much injury free, these 2 players are definate superstar players for at least another 3-5 years because if they stay injury free, their compliment to each other is very dangerous to other teams.

So IMO, they are still superstar. Yao is a superstar before he got injured, and McGrady is still a superstar. How many "all-stars" out there could lead a team without any other "all-star" caliber players. As far as I know, teams like nuggets, hawks, cavaliers, bulls, heat, blazers all have "all-star" caliber players. When I say this I don't mean they are all-star, but that these players would be all-stars if there were more all-star spots available.

By the way, I think Yao should develop a 3 pointer. If he does that, he is definately a superstar. Why? A 7-6 guy shooting 3s is every team's worse nightmare.

 

Neither of them gets superstar calls, so, neither is a superstar. As simple as that.

If Yao gets Dirk's calls, he will be 30-15 and a lot less injury prone for a lot less beating.

If TMac gets any good wing player's calls, the Rockets would be in 2nd round or even WCF last year.

The calls you get tells whether you are a superstar.

 

I am really surprised by this poll. Half the people say at least one of them is not a superstar. I strongly disagree with that.
They are two of the few players in the league who can single handedly change the outcome of a game.
We were playing flawless ball right before Yao went out. That win in New Orleans was a sign of things to come.

 

Lol you can't say that now can you? Wade gets hall of fame legend calls, but is he that amazing a player despite having marion by his side and a very good PG plus tons of potential players in the east?

Can you say wade is better than McGrady at this stage despite the fact that wade's roster is no doubt more talented than the rocket's and is playing in the east?

 

Superstars are still playing in the NBA in May+

 

Sam Cassell, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe (the highest FG % rocket player in club history), the young robert horry is a good consistent clutch player, Mario Elie had insane clutch shots and 3 pters in the playoffs.

All these players were very good consistent players that complimented Hakeem big time. And I do mean consistent. They don't play well and suddenly suck again, they play well throughout the season and the playoffs in Hakeem's first year.

 

yao and mcgrady are superstars

they realy both are...

how can you question that...

mcgrady gets double and triple team.. i dunno any star that gets that kind of defence

only superstars get that..

 

He gets double and triple teamed because he is the only consistant scorer on the team and that gets him tired . He wasn't getting that kind of coverage when Yao was playing. None of them is a superstar. Superstar is a different class of players that combine talent and attitude (will).

 

We just need another season to draw conclusion. Only title can stop the dispute. I have belief in Yao and Tracy.

 

KG is no SS, extremely overated bish