It's hilarious how easy it was to show that guy knows nothing about statistics tbh. That comment just further cemented that he just doesn't get it.
I think it would be safe to assume that if ANY player is ranked within the top 100 spots in ANY stat historically it is notable. Both Mitchell and Booker are shooting guards so it makes me wonder what is sliding booker down 150 slots in this comparison? If you want to create noise and static to why you think certain stats are or are not worthy of scrutiny thats a debate for another member. For all his size Booker is soft. He plays like he's 6'3 and Mitchell is out there playing like he's 6'6. Its night and day. Mitchell is an electric scorer and dynamic athlete who can ramp up the intensity on a whim and Booker is a 15 foot jump shot machine. Booker NEEDS a good point guard alongside him to set him up. Mitchell can self create and set the table for others. If you take out our best self creation artist and scorer in this fantasy trade you better try to replace him with a similar talent. Sengun and Booker will have a hard time trying to coexist fighting for the ball inside of the 3pt line.
Right and is Amen creating gravity? Is he drawing a defense? No. Sengun will be hard pressed to continue his ascent with a guy like Booker taking away alot of his touches inside of the 3 point line. That midrange attack doesnt work. It didnt work for PHX and it wont work for us. Mitchell declined the Olympic invite in Tokyo. If I had to play Inspector Clouseau then I'd say that had alot to do with the selection process this time around. If you want to believe Jrue Holiday and Derrick White are more deserving then therein we can find the disconnect. You may just be anti Mitchell and are dug into your foxhole and thats cool. I'd probably not use a popularity contest/selection process to dictate separation between players.
Booker is Phx's best player and since SOF's say Sengun is our best player, obviously Phoenix will want our best young player, plus fillers Sengun Cam 2027 Phx 1st rnd 2029 Phx 1st rnd
We do but we don't. Phoenix would demand like....Cam+Amen+all their picks back+the Nets pick or something. They aren't taking Green or Jabari. They would want the ones with the star upside. The Rockets don't need to trade for Booker with Cam and Reed on the roster IMO. Booker will get traded when he's 34 or something to a desperate win now team ready to mortgage their future like the Knicks did with Bridges.
Sengun would even be more hard pressed to continue his ascent with Mitchell taking all the possessions. Not sure why you keep harping on the mid range Booker is around the same level of 3 pt shooter as Mitchell. Playing in the much harder WC and with less help (KD and spare parts) Booker took less shots than Mitchell but was more efficient than Mitchell. Booker at least got to the Finals, Mitchell playing with 2 other all stars+Mobley couldnt even get to ECF. The fact he was feuding with Darius Garland when the two of them get all the posessions says it all. Jrue Holiday and D White were brought in as complementary players. They play well with other stars. Mitchell's talent has never been in question its his ability to share the ball and play defense thats the issue.
Mitchell takes and makes more 3's than Booker -- 33% more in fact. 68% of Bookers shots are 2's and more importantly 23% from the 'dreaded' 10-16 range. Booker doesnt even get to the cup for such a big guy. Mitchell almost doubles his shots from 0-3 feet for the smaller player. What does that tell you? Where do you think Sengun likes to operate? Right block. Where does Booker like to operate? Right block. To say that CLE has a better roster around Mitchell than PHX does around Booker is laughable. Mitchell has been in the playoffs every single year he's been in the league from WC to EC. Both teams are terrible in roster construct. Read this for more insight on Mitchell v Garland: https://www.fearthesword.com/2024/5...-problem-is-not-his-fit-with-donovan-mitchell
I see your point if our goal is to continue to hand-hold our core players but Booker's TS% is significantly higher than Sengun's despite their positions. Better assists and asst/to ratio too. It would be totally natural and good for us for Booker to take possessions away from Sengun right? Though I'd argue he'd take shots mostly away from FVV/Brooks/Bari who are way less efficient than our top 2 in this scenario. I might be missing your premise here so correct me if I'm wrong. Are you saying that's bad for us or just that the Sengun hardliners would be mad?
Booker IS a good shooter. He would immediately become our best and most consistent offensive threat from all 3 levels. You would most definitely run the offense through Booker and move Sengun off his spot so that Booker can work his way down to his hot zone(s). They just happen to coincide where Sengun usually likes to receive the ball. Sengun with no 3pt shot makes it hard to employ some motion concepts and things that would maximize Booker. We need a creation artist when everything bogs down, when we've spammed the PNR to death and when defenses spot and defend preferred plays. Booker is a rock solid system type player that will more often than not make the smart play and will make you pay with a good shot. My preference is a walking bucket getter. Someone that when they have the ball at mid court its a wild card. Defenses cant think "this is what he likes to do" because if you snooze these more athletic and equally skilled guys are past the first line and applying the sort of rim pressure that collapses even the most disciplined defenses. Mitchell seems to provide not only the good shooting, but the ability to single handedly break a defense and open up looks for the guys around him. Booker/Mitchell would be replacing Jalen in this fantasy so I dont think the peripheral guys would suffer with either player added to the roster, but Im sure the Sengun hardliners would get pissed either way if he's not the 1st option.
If they want to wallow in rebuilding below mediocrity then they need to get Green....otherwise go after a high pick in one of the better draft classes.
I see what you're saying. I think you're right given Udoka is the coach I think he's not going to have the creativity to make it work. We'll probably take something away from one of them. The real dream would be to have MDA and see him challenge Booker to get out of that midrange area more often and attack the rim. Would probably result in a more potent Booker and a lot more creative using of Sengun. See more of Sengun creating from higher up like the Warriors do with Draymond. Personally not a big fan of Mitchell but I can see how a PnR with him and Sengun would be more deadly. Plus more likely to get to the cup if we're in an iso situation.
Don’t want, I hate watching him play. It’s not too many available superstars around the league that will make us a contender other than KD. All the real stars are aging and these new stars are kinda overrated.
This is correct. I’ve been saying it for at least a year. There are very few stars worth trading our young core for. Booker is an upgrade to Jalen, so he is a worthy target in the short run. Giannis may get fed up in Milwaukee and he would be worth trading for. Jokic, Tatum and Doncic aren’t going anywhere. That’s about it. I am also not in the you have to have a superstar to win in this league, especially with the changes the new apron rules are bringing to the NBA.
Surely the only reason Jalen remains a Rocket beyond the trade deadline is because we are confident that a sign and trade for Booker works in the off-season. Phoenix will want more however. We will see how this year goes but right now I would be keeping Reed, Amen, Sengun and one of Tari or Smith. If the Suns really fail this season then I can see it happening.
