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What is YOUR package for Devin Booker?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HealthyHamstring, Aug 1, 2024.

  1. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    I guess it depends if you would rather have someone useless (martin) or someone awful (jalen). For team building i would rather have the useless guy than the awful guy. For that season i would rather have martin ya
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    So was KJ Martin a better scorer than Jalen Green in 2022-2023?
     
  3. astrosrule

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    I guess it depends if you would rather have someone useless (martin) or someone awful (jalen). For team building i would rather have the useless guy than the awful guy. For that season i would rather have martin ya
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    So who was the better scorer between Jalen Green and KJ Martin Jr in 2022-2023?
     
  5. astrosrule

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    I guess it depends if you would rather have someone useless (martin) or someone awful (jalen). For team building i would rather have the useless guy than the awful guy. For that season i would rather have martin ya
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    In the 2016-2017 Suns team, Devin Booker on a 24 win team had a 53% ts that was below league average. These players were above him on that roster in ts%:

    Tj Warren
    Alan Williams
    Alex Len
    Eric Bledsoe
    Jared Dudley
    John Jenkins
    Derek Jones Jr.
    Tyson Channler.

    So I'm assuming you believe all of those guys were better scorers than Devin Booker in the 2016-2017 season. If not why would someone with a higher ts% be a worse scorer than? Can you explain that. But maybe you do believe all those guys were better scorers than Booker. But man what a turnaround for Booker from being a worse scorer than Jared Dudley to being a top 5 scorer in the NBA. That's just absurd amount of self improvement so propaganda to Booker.
     
  7. astrosrule

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    I'm not gonna waste time looking up all that stuff, but i'd rather have the 16 usage 109 TS+ than the 28 usage 93 TS+. It's always a usage vs efficiency evaluation, which is what makes the jokic/embiid types the most valuable players in the league, and what made harden/curry so special. If your TS+ is 93, like Jalen the last 2 years, it doesn't matter how many ppg you average. He could have averaged 50 and he would have been a bad scorer those seasons. He has the talent to be better, but he hasn't been so far.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Let's stop the dishonesty.

    A player cannot be a good scorer unless they have a good TS% but having a good TS% does not automatically mean you are a good scorer.... it just means that you were efficient in the scoring that you did.

    The dishonest piece of **** will likely continue to be dishonest because that's just who he is, but let's stop playing along with his BS. We need to remember that he actually does know better than he let's on, he just wants to push a false narrative at all costs.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    You really aren't answering my question. We're those 9 players in the 2016-2017 roster that higher true shooting percentages higher than Booker that season better scorers than Booker?

    And it's very telling that you refuse to answer such a basic question directly.
     
  10. astrosrule

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    you'd have to post all of their usage vs ts, i don't care enough to look it up. It's basically a line, like the stinson scale
     
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    Okay so there is a possibility you think that Alex Len was a better scorer than Devin Booker in 2016-2017 you just have to examine the numbers more closely ..


    I don't think you understand how unhinged that still is to even consider that a possibility because of some arbitrary threshold you've considered.
     
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    Why is it unhinged? If Len had decent usage with elite efficiency why wouldn’t that be better than booker that one specific season?

    i looked up that specific example and no, len was not better
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Let's put t this way. In 2016 Alex Len scored 36% of his fgs made unassisted as a 7 fter where a large brunt of his unassisted fgs will be put backs, one of the highest percentage plays on the league that has more to do with the position you play rather than talent. A guard isn't going to get a large brunt of their unassisted fgs made being put backs. As a reference Booker was around 60% unassisted rate on fgs made and you can be rest assured very few of those unassisted buckets are mere put backs. So if we strip away put backs from offensive boards, Len's unassisted rate would be in the teens.

    So who would be the better scorer now?
     
  14. astrosrule

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    Len sucked, booker was better for sure
     
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    You are a walking oymoron.

     
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    But he had a higher ts% than Booker.
     
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    "Hey daywalker02, what is the tallest building in North America? "

    Doesn't have the same ring as "hey Alexa"
     
  18. tycoonchip

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    Devin Booker? He's worth a Hotdog with that cereal they sold at Toyota Center that year.
     
  19. astrosrule

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    barely, and people have told you a million times that you can't just look at a list of TS, it's as pointless as looking at a ppg list if you ignore all context
     
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    So why did you bring up that there were 7 people with a higher ts% on the Rockets?


    And why are you hesitant to say that Booker was a better sofer than Len? Do you want the to go rheoufh all the other 8 players in that post on the Suns and go through individually if they were better scorers than Booker?
     

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