Idk the numbers on the doubling stuff. Generally speaking, the worse of a passer someone is, the more you want to double them, hence the jokic example. What was preventing teams from doubling jalen in previous seasons? Kpj? LOL
Jalen experienced doubles in his first couple of seasons. Not consistently. Usually when he started off a game really well.
I don't think you understand what I'm asking. Is there ra magical city of of below league average efficiency that makes every player above that efficiency a better scorer. Does this mean KJ Martin is a better scorer than Green?
You can't be a good scorer without a decent TS% but a good TS% does not guarantee that you'll be a good scorer. You can't be a racing car without being a car, but being a car does not mean you are a racing car.
This is the core of it basically. If your TS is bad, you can't be a good scorer, it's impossible. You can contribute in other ways, even to offensive success, but you're not a good scorer. You would rather have a 30 usage 60 TS than a 20 usage 62 TS, but you would rather have a 15 usage 60 TS then a 30 usage 54 TS
Magical, no. Looking through EPM, a TS% below 53% is harming a team offensively regardless of usage and other offensive traits. This is empirically derived. There are players above that number that harm their team as well. A usage below 10.9 also appears to be always a negative offensive EPM. There are players above that number that are negative as well. Do you understand the basic concept that efficiency and volume are both important? Edit: When dealing with people that aren't being reasonable in opinion, I typically default to an objective measure. EPM isn't perfect, but it is good enough to show the basic concept of how efficiency and volume are both important.
So KJ Martin is a better scorer than Jalen Green is what you are saying? When did I ask about epm? I'm asking a very simple question. Is KMJ a better scorer than Jalen Green. Do you really need to invoke epm for this?
What are you trying to get at? Of course you can't look at JUST TS%, nobody has ever said you can. Its just as silly as looking at PPG and saying that jordan poole is better than chet
Maybe, it is…it’s been a while. I can’t remember exactly the origin. Apologies if it has since been dunked
how tiring is it to argue for or against Jalen green based on the same old stuff for the 3rd season in a row - I don't get how you guys do it.
Just answer the damn question. Is KJ Martin a better scorer than Green? You listed Jalen's rnal on the team in ts% for a reason right? You want to tank players on the team using ts% as if every player has the same role. It's so odd how people like you just make up arguments to strawman. Jalen Green's efficiency isn't good enough as of now to be a go to option on a good team. Is anyone denying he needs to improve his efficiency to reach his potential and what we expected of him drafted number 2 overall? But it's obvious you are trying to push a narrative that there are 6-7 better scorers on this team because they have a higher ts%. There is no utility in having a team ranking of ts%.
What? Where did i say any of this? I think you’re thinking of someone else. The rockets version of martin was definitely less damaging than jalen as a scorer, the philly version last year was probably worse than jalen?
Jabari is our only starting level PF. Booker would be an upgrade to Jalen, but you don’t massively screw your defense and give up a 22 year old PF that has improved significantly over his first few years and is an excellent defensive player. Jalen, filler, and the picks is the best offer anyone will be able to put together for Booker. I don’t care about past accolades, I care about fit and progressing the whole team. If Jalen sucks again, Booker is a major upgrade to SG, but not at the expense of the guy that regularly guards Wemby, Chet, Durant, and Lebron with good results. Basketball is played on two sides of the court. I’m sorry I called you stupid, that was out of line. I meant the trade was stupid, in my opinion.
No. You asked for me to expand on the logic I was using. As you apparently don't trust reasonable people, I went to EPM as an objective measure. You followed up with other loaded questions so I am going with an objective measure. No KMJ is not a better scorer than Green. Yes, I need to use EPM as an objective measure. You don't seem to show any understanding that efficiency as well as usage is important and only grasp things that show Green in a positive light. While EPM isn't perfect, it illustrates the relationship.
Actually the very first question I asked was if KJ Martin or anyone with a higher ts% was a better scorer. If you saw what I replied to you'd see why also as the poster I replied to implied that everyone on the Rockets with a higher ts% was a better scorer. I think you brought up epm to deflect from what I was actually asking and wanted to go on a rant about "impact". Now I'm going to ask you this: why is KMJ a worse scorer because he has a higher ts%. Shouldn't that mean he's a better scorer?
It's not that he doesn't understand, it's that he's a dishonest piece of ****. He knows that he's being dishonest, but the only thing he cares about is pushing his agenda.
