Australia's program happened after tough new gun laws. They saw a 59% decline is firearm crime without an increase in other weapons being used. The buy-back program only works if the right laws are passed first.
And? One aspect of pro-gun activist rhetoric is their analogy to automobiles. If automobiles had the same 'failure rate' as firearms, you bet your ass there would be a mass movement by both sides of the political spectrum(no political ideology tied with the use of automobiles) to recall automobiles and replace it with an alternate form of transportation. Let's define 'failure rate' as the rate at which an innocent individual is injured or murdered by a product when in use. When a automobile is driven it is considered 'in use'. When a firearm is discharged, it's 'in use'. It's not even close. The failure rate of firearms is far greater than automobiles. In fact, out of any mass circulated product category in the U.S., I bet firearms are by far the product category with the highest failure rate. If it was any other product category, you would hear an outcry buy all spectrums of political ideology to limit or ban the product, yet, since firearms are incorrectly tied to 'freedom', almost half of the country(right wingers) believe the notion of limiting access to a high failure rate product is irrational and 'Hitleresque'.
i never said anything about banning all semi-automatic weapons. i said that the vast majority in this poll favor increased gun control measures in one form or another. in national polls it is pretty evenly split. with that in mind, the idea that people who favor increased gun control are extremists is an extremist position.
Call me an extremist if you want I vote confiscate them all. Like civil rights, gay marriage, rights to vote for women, eventually we will have universal healthcare and guns will be illegal. It just takes a long time to make common sense changes when you have a country of citizens this ignorant.
That's Lou's plan, I don't know if you sign on with that loon, but I was pointing out that his plan is extreme. I support some forms of increased gun control such as better background checks and restrictions on people with mental illnesses. The reason most Americans support "more" gun control measures is because that's a really broad phrase.
I'm not, that was Lou saying what he'd "settle for", he made it clear that he supports a ban of all semi-automatic weapons which is an extreme position and is what I said was an extreme position. It's not my fault that you failed to follow along.
Well, yes, that's an extreme position....but some people are just anti-civil rights, you certainly aren't the first.
All around the western world, gun ownership is not tied to civil rights. That is a subjective opinion, and you are touting that statement around as if it was objective.
I would be interested in seeing the numbers on this. How many times are cars driven annually in the United States? How many times is an innocent individual injured or killed by a car annually in the US? How many bullets are fired annually in the United States? How many people are injured or killed annually by bullets in the US? Given that there are more guns than cars, that cars are used on more days of the year than guns, but typically only two or three times a day, while guns when used can shoot hundreds of bullets at the range in a single day, I am not at all certain that you are going to find the failure rate of guns as you defined the terms is radically higher than cars, or even higher at all. The US manufactures billions of rounds of ammunition per year, and it is not going entirely to foreign wars and building up large stockpiles. I would say it is not outside the realm of possibility that there are billions of uses of each of those products each year in the US, and there are roughly the same number of deaths from cars. The vast majority of gun deaths are suicides in the US, which need to be counted to make the comparison at all even. If you take out the suicides from each category, the numbers are WAY in favor of guns (especially because each suicide only generally accounts for one bullet).
No, and that's not what makes it extreme, the fact that it's an extreme view makes it extreme. Glad we had this talk so I could clear that up for you.
The only extreme view is to think that letting people walk around with devices that can be used to murder whomever they want for whatever reason in seconds is somehow ok.
It's guaranteed by the constitution. If you don't like it, there are other places you can live. As to America, it was founded on a pretty basic concept You disagree with that, so find a place that better represents your ideology.
Now, as most quotes you see in memes, I'm not 100% sure that it it attributed properly, but the message is accurate.
