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What is Yao Ming's future with the Rockets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MambaJoe, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

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    You made Divac sound like an all world athlete which he was not. Yao was every bit as athletic as Divac.
     
  2. bullardfan

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    yao will be asked to play within the system and he will do so gladly. asking yao to play the high post isnt a problem. i think he naturally likes playing the high post.

    tmac and yao play different positions so yeah, he isnt going to be asked to lead a break, guard a wing player or create off the dribble.

    he will however need to work on QB passes and 3 point shooting. i think you'll see his midrange jumper more. he shouldnt be asked to do as much banging down low unless thats where the advantage is. RAs system (now that it is almost fully being utilised) is actually going to be more comfortable for yao.
    there will be less of a problem of him being neutralized b/c he is going to be a threat from various spots on the court, not just down low. contrary to popular belief, yao is a good passer. so you might see more alley oops or scoring on movement to the basket from ariza, landry, cbud, etc. i still dont know how the AB/Yao combo will be. I think Lowry might be more complimentary to Yao.
     
  3. Naija Texan

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    Adelman didn't want to give McGrady minutes because he wasn't back to proper form yet but was asking for more minutes. That is all there is to it. McGrady could only score more then one shot against the Clippers. You can't use that 8 minutes isn't enough time excuse because anyone who saw those games know the Rockets tried to get him open and the main issue was that he just couldn't be whoever they had guarding him and he couldn't defend either.

    As for Yao, honestly people are nuts on him not working in this system. Essentially, this season Carl Landry has gotten most of his points the same way as Yao. As much as we are a run and gun team with Brooks and Lowry, only Ariza, Scola and Budinger are ever really following there on fast break drives unless one of our other players were lagging on the defensive end to begin with. The only thing Yao might have to do is work on his outside shot to fit in better and the fact is, given how well everyone is playing, he will probably end up getting less minutes anyway.
     
  4. crash5179

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    We should remember that Yao can provide things that this years Rockets need. Interior rebounding, Shot Blocking and an addition scoring threat in the half court offense. Also size that we just do not have. When Yao gets back to full strength I expect to see very little Chuck Hayes.
     
  5. Yetti

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    This is the truth! I believe that at this point we don't know the true reason why they are getting rid of Mcgrady! :p
     
  6. IamKhan

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    You guys make it like Adelman is the one-trick offense-challenged coach. Adelman is the perfect coach to mix the Yao's low post game with the current team.

    Why did not he integrate TMac? Because TMac has nothing valuable for him to integrate.
     
  7. albuster

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    Great post.
     
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    We currently have a few players on the Rockets who are way less productive on offense than Yao ever is (even when fronted), yet we aren't shipping them out of town. The team is even trying to make one in to 20 ppg scorer, which doesn't seem to be possible unless he takes 30 shots.
     
  10. joesr

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    I dont know whats gonna happen and wont pretend like I do.

    But here is what I would like to happen.

    Note, Yao is my favorite ball player, Rocket or not.

    That being said:

    I want Yao to move DOWN to sixth man role. Reduced minutes. Hopefully playing lesser minutes will let him survive longer. Wins 6th man award easily. Teams have to adjust there roster to be able to defend agaisnt this making it easier on our starters.

    But this also goes along with somehow getting Bosh. (I wont pretend like I am a pro GM machine trader) If we can land him then awesome. I would think something along the lines of Battier, Landry and Cook for Bosh? IDK. But we resign both Bosh and Scola. Bosh and Scola starts. Yao comes in afterwards. And basically our low post players dominate in the NBA.

    What we have I basically dream and call the Bermuda triangle of big men. Opposing teams come in but dont come out!!!!!

    OMG.
     
  11. eveluvsrox

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    Yao isn't going anywhere
    /thread
     
  12. NBAlover

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    LOL...is 20:15 record good enough to you???? then your expectation is way too low.
     
  13. MambaJoe

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    I agree. Yao can protect the paint and bring us much needed size. But down the stretch, it is too risky to go through Yao on the offensive end just because he will cause a turnover, running the shot clock out just by waiting for him to get down the court, get into position, and when he finally gets the ball in position, he usually forces up the shot.

    Yao would help us by protecting the paint but down the stretch, we will need a superstar player or a good all star type player. Yao can score well but he always had trouble in the past when it comes down to crunch time. Turn overs, running out the clock just to get into position, offensive fouls, 3 seconds in the paint, forcing up the shot due to frustration etc...

    One thing about Yao is that the defense can really get under his skin. When he gets fronted, he has a hard time getting around it. He tries so hard to get into position that the refs will call 3 seconds on him. Or when he actually get the ball, due to frustration, he will force up a bad shot because he thinks that he finally got into position, got the ball, and he must shoot the ball. For some reason, I don't understand why he don't just try to pass the ball back out or set a high pick and roll and take a mid range jumper.

    It would be foolish to offer him a big contract. Once his contract is up, he will have to take a big pay cut. I don't think Morey is dumb enough to offer Yao another big contract. Reason why he would take a big pay cut is because he is getting old, his injury will re-occur again, and he wouldn't be as effective and he has too many weaknesses. With the money we paying him right now, the Rockets can sign a really good center.

    The money that he is bring to Les, I think is overrated. Its going to Les, not the team. So I can careless how much money he makes for Les. I don't see the money ever going to the team. Most of our cap money goes to Yao and Tmac. I just cannot wait til Tmac and Yao's both contracts are up.

    For the money we're paying Yao, I just think we can sign a more efficient and more reliable younger center with higher potential to be greater than Yao.
     
  14. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Don't forget that's with the NBA's hardest schedule! :D
     
  15. NBAlover

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    i agree. run & gun can not direct us anywhere this season. we will mix two options together.
     
  16. NBAlover

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    LOL...look....efficient, reliable, young, higher potential, greater. LOL.
    Hey, wake up. you are in day dream :grin:

    good center is always rare in the world. that's why their salary is always higher because it's more difficult to get a decent center than guards.
     
  17. MambaJoe

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    So by adding Yao into our line up, how much better would that record be? Actually, I think by just having Yao in that lineup, the record would probably be the same or actually worst.

    Yao will win some games for us and he will lose some games for us.
     
  18. choujie

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    What a nice idea. Let's just get rid of Yao and sign a young Shaq, or a young Hakeem.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    It's not jsut pure numbers, which are going to be down, it's that he drastically changes the style of play when he is in and forces the Rockets to solve a new set of problems that they are not as adept at solving - it's why they've been able to lose him before and still perform at a high level.
     
  20. MambaJoe

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    The money we paying yao right now, we can get a younger and better talent than yao. We can get a player that can actually play and put up some numbers other than sit out the whole season with countless injuries. Yao has become a risk to this team. His injuries year in and year out has tear apart this team.

    The Rockets just cannot afford for that to keep happening again and again. We just cannot keep waiting for the next season when he returns or keep saying to ourself what ifs. I rather get a younger center with more talent and a higher potential.

    There are a few new young centers in the NBA that has a better upside than Yao. Even Brook Lopez is destined to be greater than Yao. We need a guy that can last in the NBA. The Rockets just cannot afford to take another major injury to Yao again.

    Im not day dreaming buddy. I'm just saying what's real. There are a few good young centers with a higher potential than Yao out there. With the right money, we can hopefully land one of them.
     

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