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What is wrong with Yao Ming?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by reptilexcq, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Wasn't Swift Yao's man on that play?

    And 2, trying to block every shot is a mistake when you're not a great shot blocker, just leads to fouls, same thing with trying to take charges in the circle.

    The effort play isn't always the smart play when there is a low probability of success and high probability of picking up a foul.

    OH, and looking at that pic, Yao's arms are short for his size. Swift's look roughly as long, if not longer, and he's what, half a foot shorter or more?

    Somebody last week was trying to argue with me about how it shouldn't matter and that Yao could be like Mark Eaton anyway. Well, you're wrong, it does matter, and Eaton's wingspan appears to be much greater than Yao's by a wide margin.
     
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  2. zhao1109

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    what do you mean beat the fronting, I saw so many times even Duncan can not! it's team work plus coach! if you really dislike Yao, say it.
     
  3. michecon

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    Don't try TOO hard. You wasted a lot of energy.

    A word for Yao ming.
     
  4. oldgunrules

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    I DISLIKE YAO. Happy now? Gee I wonder if he is still thinking about going back to China next summer to play the CBA or Asian games whatever. Maybe he can even be the MVP.

    Don't get me wrong though, I, and it's safe to say most of the fans like him as a person. But the NBA is not about personality contest. Hope he gets it before it's too late.
     
  5. michecon

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    Let's step back, to 2 seasons, or even 1 season ago. People were saying: Yao needs to get more touches, he can shoot, he can pass, he can create for himself and others, let him touch the ball on the high post, let him get the ball deeper on the low post...

    Now fast forward to this season, and let me ask you this: Are Yao's touches increased compared to seasons before in recent games? Do rockets try to give Yao the ball more to develop the flow of offense?

    And then let me get one step further, and ask you this: Do you think it's because of Yao's regression, or the current offensive system, or the lack of proper teammates that puts Yao Ming and the Rockets in their current position?
     
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    I don't have any problem with yao being dunked. He is slow and wants to contend dunk attmpts too much. NBA and American culture just over-emphsize the drama of dunk too much! I didn't buy it.

    However, Yao's defense has a long way to go. Sometimes he tried too hard, but did it not smartly.
     
  7. hotballa

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    Thats a pretty good assessment. Yao is being used like Cato in that he is being treated as an afterthought by the players on the floor. We've been on a decent roll the last 10 or so games, so it's been kinda overlooked. I don't really agree with it, because I think living and dying by your perimeter play is just recipe for disaster long term wise. On the other hand, Yao isn't really helping things by his body language, he just looks plain msierable out there, no fun at all. I still think the trades of Franchise and JJ affected him a lot more than we think. Not to get all cultural or anything, but he is just now seeing the way business is done in real live action, whiole we've all been accustomed and hardened to this by the various Hakeem episodes and other things. It's a little unsettling to realize the game you love is actually just like any other cutthroat job. I believe Yao's body language betrays his true emotions, trading Franchise was the worst thing that coulda happened to Yao's development, had he been able to maintain his naievity for at least another year or so, I believe he would be over 20 and 10 by now. As it is, I fear more and more that this is the stage he will be stuck in for the rest of his career, not having any fun, putting up 18 and 8 one night, 25 and 10 the next, followed by 2 or 3 subpar games of 12 and 6.
     
  8. Jerry36

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    If you play like Cato on offense, you get used less.
     
  9. Gummi Clutch

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    Get Yao Help NOW!!! :x :eek:

    Get Yao Help NOW!!!

    That dunk by Swift over Yao was the last straw for me. Something needs to be done now to help Yao. We need to get Donyell Marshall in here. We need a bruiser to protect Yao from this embarassment. It just makes more people want to try and dunk on him. I dont care about our #1 pick anymore. Get Yao help now. This is humiliating! :mad:
     
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  10. forfun

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    Since yao returned to the lineup, his performance has gone down dramaticaly. Most of people blamed this to yao himself. Sure, yao has to take a lot. But look at the situation here I am not so sure the current playing style of this team is the best for the future or to be a title contender.

    Fans are happy with recent 4 wins in a row. However, when you looked at how we won, I am a little bit confused since I can not find identity of this team. There is no tempo of this team. Rockects followed the tempo of Nuggets, Lakers, Nets and Spurs when we were playing them. Luckily, bench players brought some energy and knocked down some shots. We won these games. So far, I have to say this is Magic of last year. Totally no inside-out plays on the court.

    Yao only took about 6~8 shots per game (some due to his foul trouble), so it can be said that he is the third or fourth option of current team. Well, SF3, JJ has gone and there is no one left from last season to know how to make a pass to yao. Our current guards are worried their stats of turn over instead of trying to make pass to yao. Yao is very good at offense end but mediocre at defense end. But he is asked to give great performance at defense virtually without any help from PF and perimeter players. Yao has to make progress on his defense, but the team defense is not as intense as last year mainly due to the collapse of perimeter defense. Almost any player from the opponent could easily cut and drive to lane. This led to Yao’s first two fouls in last game.

    As everyone knows JVG is not a good offense coach, now he just let the team playing freestyle. So sometime it works, sometime it won’t. I won’t expect Rockets will go deep in playoff with current playing style (if they can make playoff). Look at how Spur plays. No matter which team they are playing, they always do the same thing. That is a title contender. I do see it in Rockets.

    If this continue going like this, I guess either JVG or Yao has to go. I am here not try to praise Yao actually he needs to be more aggressive and smarter on the court. He needs to knock down some players who dare to challenge his territory. He needs to learn a lot of before he become a consistent star in this team. But the current team is not in the right shape, recent wins just covered something really serious which may hurt the team in a long tem.
     
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    OK I changed the pic so you have another angle to look at while you have too much time on your hands.

    I also made this post about getting Yao some help.

    Who's available???

    I see Mo Taylor plus our #1 pick as the only bait that we can afford to offer.
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    The other pic is also already in the other thread.
     
  14. KeepKenny

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    Donyell Marshall isn't exactly a bruiser or tough guy. His 3 point shot could help though.
     
  15. Gummi Clutch

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    8o - Where?!?!

    I also made this post about getting Yao some help. Who is available???


    Too much fake mod police around here. geez.

    Perhaps JVG has some crusty retired power forwards in mind???
     
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  16. adai

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    Yao should step up, aside or down, just not stay where he was
     
  17. RocketManJosh

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    You KNOW the Rockets are trying to get rid of Mo Taylor and his contract and I'm sure they would listen to just about anyone.

    I'm sure the Rox are trying to get Yao help, but it just doesnt work that way. You don't get something for nothing. I don't think the rest of the GMs around the league lose sleep at night trying to figure out how they can help the Rockets and Yao. It's a two-way street. We are going to have to do the best we can.

    In another couple years, I suspect the Rockets will have a completely different supporting cast built around T-Mac and Yao. This team is not built around those two guys yet and it is going to take some time.
     
  18. Luckyazn

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    [​IMG]

    BRING IT ON!!
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    It was, actually, but someone edited their post and now it is gone.

    Anyway, as for help, I still think MoTaylor for PJ would be great, or getting Donyell.
     
  20. mulletman

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    i think yao was a second too slow in going for the block. had he timed it correctly, swift would have been blocked by yao (again)

    instead, we're going to have to see this play over and over again on espn:(
     

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