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What is wrong with Herschel Walker?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 29, 2022.

  1. AkeemTheDreem86

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    You call bs on my anecdotes, huh? And your reason is that my experience doesn't align with yours? So anyone who doesn't have the same experience as you is a liar?

    I'm not on social media really, but I do hang out with lots of younger folk in my line of work. I typically like your posts, but calling out someone's experience as bullshit because it doesn't align with your pre-conceived views and further your unreliable narrative is something I see a lot of from the left. That, my friend, is bullshit.
     
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  2. AkeemTheDreem86

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    Sadly true, but I'm trying to elevate the collective consciousness.

    human vs. human Being.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    We can agree to disagree as I can't verify what you experienced nor can you mine but yes I have been in plenty of situations with people saying what their pronouns are.
    Of course they do. That doesn't mean we can't have a discussion on this and that's what we're doing is having a discussion.
    As I said I can't verify your experience but neither can you verify mine yet you seem determined to dismiss it. I don't believe people will impose pronouns by law, although at last year's Twins' LGBT day game they did require you to list your pronouns before getting a comemorative jersey.

    Again you don't have to like it and you can deny such things happen but they do. I'm not saying that they happen all the time but these do make for easy punching bag fodder. Just as on the other side a couple of good ol boys wearing shirts saying "Better be Red than a Democrat" makes good punching bag fodder on the other side.
    Frankly this sounds very partisan. Being a "moderate" is all about finding nuance that you just dismissing it as the establishment not wnating to engage in problem solving sounds rather closed minded.

    Also as stated several times I saw first hand the attempts to actually make defund the police happen among very liberal people. It ended up being a political disaster for many that pushed it.
     
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  4. Invisible Fan

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    Maher is a boomer. He's highlighted some views that are similar to our resident centrist Democrat which rankles many on here for diff reasons.

    I wouldn't dismiss everything as being provocative even if his delivery is meant to grab attention as any effective personality would do. Now Obama is starting to prod around the edges because the Progressive message is becoming tone deaf to issues all Americans face on the daily.

    Obviously woke and pronouns have carried a backlash where lefties aren't as proud as wearing them as they would 3-5 years ago. I still see pronouns at work and I don't think it causes any controversy or eye-rolls using them. That means the left won on that front, so why would they argue about it in public discourse?

    In Cali, you can get ostracized or cut off for saying the wrong political thing. It's a bit illiberal in terms of discourse and of course you have to carry a strong enough smug to pretend you're above all the homelessness encroaching around your day to day.
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    I highly doubt Bill Maher is a Clutchfan but if he was he would probably enjoy the reaction his episodes have gotten.
     
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  6. subtomic

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    Progressives push for a fair tax structure, fair voting, less oppressive law enforcement and fairer employment laws. I'm having a hard time determining how any of this is tone deaf.

    Some of you seriously need to spend more time reading and watching actual progressive politicians and less treating the ramblings of some of the 19-year old kids in your immediate orbit as if they're the official policy of the progressive members of the Democratic policy. Because let's face it - all 19 year olds are full of tone deaf, nebulous and outright dumb ideas and love thinking about them out loud. But as loud as they may be, they aren't driving policy for anyone anywhere in our country.

    For example, let's go to AOC's congressional web page - https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/congress. See anything about pronouns or drag queen shows? In fact, I don't really see much of anything here that the average centrist Democrat would disagree with. Yet from the way they talk about her, you'd think she was going to nationalize the oil industry and force New York schools to admit X number of nonbinary individuals regardless of their test scores.

    There have been a handful of individuals who have said or done something offensive and paid the price in their social circles, but just about all of them are still working and living their lives. Meanwhile, we have red states actively oppressing marginalized populations in ways that are much more permanent than the social doghouse - for the most recent example, look at what's happening in Florida. With all this going on, I'm just flabbergasted by the attention you all are willing to give to the problem of "wokeness."

    Going beyond just your post Invisible Fan, I agree the constant rambling about "woke" from angry centrists wasn't directly inspired by Bill Maher - rather, he's serving as a very loud voice in the Greek chorus of pundits (chief among them James Carville and Heidi Heitkamp but also Obama more recently) who are hyperfocused on the most grotesque (at least in their eyes) examples of the progressive base rather than even mentioning the actual policy ideas of the left.

    Finally, it's definitely true that some moderates/centrists are interested in nuance, but not all are and furthermore, an appreciation of nuance is certainly not limited to the centrists. More often, I see centrists as akin to the family member who isn't willing to take sides in a conflict between an abuser and the abused, and in fact, spends more time criticizing the abused for "stirring things up." than they do advocating for them against the abuser. As a very general rule, US centrists/moderates are driven by a desire for order (not my idea - see MLK) and are historically averse to change and even more so averse to confronting injustice.

    Most progressives grasp all too well that Americans are concerned and affected by stuff like gas and grocery prices and public safety. The difference is that they aren't willing to turn to empty gestures and platitudes. Now certainly, progressives have been guilty of bad ideas and worse messaging on the good ones, but even the worst ideas don't seek to divide and disenfranchise.

    So to tie this back to the question that started the thread, the problem with Herschel Walker is (1) he's grossly unfit for office and (2) the entirely capable and palatable alternative is hamstrung by both GOP misrepresentation and the willingness of centrists to give a disproportionate weight to that misrepresentation.
     
  7. CCorn

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    He’s probably Os.
     
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    I am werk wif
     
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  9. Dairy Ashford

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    Why does he sound like he Quantum Lept from the year Slaveteen Ninety-Two, was Eli working on a Flux Capacitor and did Herschel run fast enough to hit 1.21 you-know-what-a-watts
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    No Maher isn’t interested in passing on other’s material without letting you know what he thinks.
     
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  11. Reeko

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    Herschel Walker is all the negative stereotypes about black people all rolled into one

    this buffoon is so dumb, he probably thinks the key to the city is an actual key that can open any lock or door within city limits

    every time he opens his mouth it’s so embarrassing…he talks like a modern day slave

    “I Herschel Walker, and I’s be running for da Senate. I am work with law enforcement too.”

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    it’s a joke that this dunce is a Senate candidate…he is embarrassingly stupid

    this joker really pulled out a Party City police badge on the debate stage…Did it come with a plastic gun too?
     
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  12. KingCheetah

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    Well, look at you being all feisty.
     
  13. CCorn

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    He will have a long career on Fox News as a political commentator.
     
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  14. Reeko

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    I think they’ll throw his dumbass back into the hole he came out of if he loses to Warnock since his usefulness will decrease
     
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    My main thing with Maher these days....well, blaming the Democrats (the "woke wing", anyway) for Herschel Walker (no, Bill, the Republicans chose a neanderthal hypocrite dipshit because he's a black football hero and they want to siphon votes from Warnock who is, uh, let me see, um, BLACK).

    Plus his re-writing of the pandemic, for various reasons: (a) he got the virus two weeks after getting the jab [it takes four weeks to be effective, and you'll still catch it, just not wind up hospitalized or dead); (b) he's a very healthy 66 year-old and yes, fatties have more problems with the virus but they're not going to suddenly become slim and healthy. Yes, it's stupid to wear a mask outdoors, and maybe the left overreacted on things, but the alternative would have been to let everyone catch the virus before hospitals could handle the influx and before the vaccine was ready etc etc, and how many millions would be dead?

    But you do you, Bill. Herschel Walker.....because, well, the Democrats.

    (Thank God he's off this week, I have to watch because my wife enjoys him.)
     
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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    At this point, it’s the conservatives pushing the culture wars moreso.
     
  18. bobrek

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    This thread would be 1 page if it was titled "What is Right With Herschel Walker"
     
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