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What is the highest pick in this draft that the Rockets could trade Asik for?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, May 16, 2014.

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What is the highest pick in this draft that the Rockets could trade Asik for?

  1. #9 or #10

    36 vote(s)
    22.0%
  2. #11

    5 vote(s)
    3.0%
  3. #12

    11 vote(s)
    6.7%
  4. #13

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. #14

    15 vote(s)
    9.1%
  6. #15

    21 vote(s)
    12.8%
  7. #16

    12 vote(s)
    7.3%
  8. #17

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  9. #18 to #30

    45 vote(s)
    27.4%
  10. No first rounder, second round only

    13 vote(s)
    7.9%
  1. Da_Spark

    Da_Spark Member

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    For starters, you need a list of teams who have enough cap room to absorb Asik's contract. From there, which of those teams are in need of a starting center?
     
  2. basketballholic

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    The context should be more general for the purposes of this discussion. There's enough teams with cap space. And enough trade options involving salaries to get practically any trade of a pick from #9 on down done.

    The purpose of this thread is to consider trade value. What is Asik worth? Specifically what is Asik worth to a team trading away a superstar. How much value can they get from Asik to help them rebuild? Specifically, a team like the T-Wolves. If they have to trade Love, they're going to have to rebuild on the fly. They'll need cap space to bring Gasol to town to babysit Rubio along with multiple picks and young talent to continue to rebuild. Or they'll need to send Rubio out eventually and totally rebuild.

    Bottom line is picks and cap flexibility are the priority.
     
  3. PuzzledFan

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    We need Asik.
     
  4. meh

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    Unless the Rockets are trading Asik for the sake of signing Melo, no reason why we can't just take on some expiring salaries.
     
  5. kjayp

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    I went 18-30.... Normally, I think Asik would pull you a pick just outside the top 10, but given the 15M balloon payment... his value falls to the backside of the first rd.... or a second and a future second...
     
  6. Mirri3000

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    We 'could' get the 9th pick, Asik is very much worth that. That answers the question of the poll.

    We 'should' trade him for a pick with protection on it, so that it becomes a lottery pick in later years. We get it if 4-14 for 4 years, then 5th unprotected. Honestly, we don't need the cap hit a high draft pick would net us this year, unless it's 1-6, and we won't be getting that.
     
  7. ItalianRocket

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    No we don't,he is gone next Year if we do Not trade him.

    Also 48 of Elite Rim Protection my ass,we Need a PF and PG badly
     
  8. OremLK

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    We shouldn't trade Omer for a draft pick unless we can turn around and deal that pick for an overall upgrade to the team. We are not in a good position to bring more rookies into the fold... we need to win now. Dwight ain't getting any younger
     
  9. basketballholic

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    Agreed. That's the premise behind the thread. How much draft pick value can we accumulate to get a deal done for Love?
     
  10. leebigez

    leebigez Contributing Member

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    Asik isa solid player,but. Any team with cap room and a younger team has better options like Gortat. If the rox can get a 15 ish pick or a player who fits,then that's a better option. Any trade taking on salary has to involve asik. Whether it rondo or some other player. Ideally, a guy like channing frye makes more sense on this team than asik. Frye is a 4/5 combo with range. If nothing happens,asik will just have to accept his bench role and collect checks.
     
  11. basketballholic

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    Now do you understand why I asked the question?
     
  12. roflmcwaffles

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    If we find a center starved team and take back a bad contract for salary purposes, I could see the 9-10 thing happening, otherwise likely ~15-20 is what he could fetch.
     
  13. Fullcourt

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    What the hell kinda poll is this?
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

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    Asik for Humphries and their 17th overall pick maybe?
     
  15. dobro1229

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    What's the phrase they use in Real Estate? The house is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

    This house has been on the market for a long time and the rule of thumb is the longer it sits, the harder it is to sell and the more you have to discount in order to sell.

    I don't think anyone can tell you exactly what Asik's value is because it's completely dependent on each individual buyer. The only buyer we know of was the Celtics who a few months ago were willing to give up a draft pick(details unknown exactly) AND were asking the Rockets to also take back two bad salaries as well for role players.

    That's not a good sign guys. I think Asik's value had improved slightly but I wouldn't expect much back in terms of draft pick value without giving up something else in the deal to get a better than average pick in return.
     
  16. dobro1229

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    Humph is a free agent.
     
  17. Edward77547

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    He is worth a second rounder if they have to take on the entire contract straight up.
     
  18. ThatBoyNick

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    Is there a deadline to where he turns into a free agent? The nba trade machine on espn still has him as trade-able, is that just a glitch?
     
  19. Edward77547

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    Some fans here are delusional if they think he is worth any kind of lottery pick straight up which is what Morey wants to do. He doesn't want any bad contracts back so that will lower the value we will get for him. C mon lets be honest here Tiago Splitter played better then Asik and Splitter isn't even a top 10 center. Rival executives won't be jumping on him for what he did in limited time this year or what he did a year ago.
     
  20. dobro1229

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    Yeah that's one of the areas where the trade machine is incorrect. He's not a free agent till July 1st but you can't trade for a player after the trade deadline the previous season if he's in the final year of his deal.

    The trade machine is a good tool to work quick salary cap math but there are still other trade rules to consider that it does not factor in.
     

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