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What is the difference between Aaron Brooks and Allen Iverson?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Jan 14, 2010.

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  1. trugoy

    trugoy Member

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    Now, I know that AB will most likely be a solid starter for his career, while iverson will be in the HOF. So career wise and statistics wise, there is no comparison.

    However what is the difference between their games and their skills and talents? Why is Iverson(in his prime) considered so much better? Their physical size is similar, I think Iverson is longer and has bigger hands, Brooks is a better 3 point shooter.

    I don't see iverson having an advantage in speed, dribbling, basketball IQ, hops, court vision, etc... Is the difference in their careers just because of teams being "more committed" to a player, i.e. running more plays for iverson, giving him the keys to the offense, surrounding him with complementary players, getting more superstar calls etc...

    Someone help me understand, I don't see the physical difference between the two, I think brooks could easily put up similar numbers with low FG% like iverson if he was given the green light to just dominate the ball.
     
    #1 trugoy, Jan 14, 2010
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    i think a key difference is prime iverson could get to the rim and finish consistently. he made very acrobatic layups back then, while brooks relies a lot on his 3 point shot.

    also iverson could get his shot off any time any where. he just needed to break down his defender and he got an open look. brooks struggles with breaking down his defender even with his quickness. he doesnt have a lot of shot creating ability.
     
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    LOL @ you if your really asking this question... Iverson in his prime was way better than brooks. Ask yourself this question and im not trying to get at you... Can Aaron Brooks carry a team all by himself?? Iverson took a team to the finals. Can Brooks do that??

    Iverson and Brooks shouldn't even be in the same sentence if your talking about how things were back in the days. Brooks is good but come on thats a slap in the face 2 Iverson.
     
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    AI's aggressive mentality and ability to look for and take contact. that's about it. It's all about touches. If Brooks was given the ball as much as AI was during his career, and he looked to score, AB would get his 25+. If AB was about 2 inches taller, he'd get close to 30.
     
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    Iverson was a scoring champion multiple times..
    Iverson got to the line at will..
    Iverson was THE team.
    Iverson's handles have never been surpassed.. IMO


    Brooks is a better shooter.
    Brooks is also only a sophomore (basically).

    We won't know the answer to your question for quite some time. You asked way too soon.
     
    #5 RMGEEGEE, Jan 14, 2010
  6. trugoy

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    I agree, but is that because of superstar calls?

    Brooks cannot be defended if you apply the foul rules correctly, the only way to defend him is if you illegally body or hancheck him(ala derek fisher).

    Is it really because iverson is better or that he was more protected via the refs?
     
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    A big difference between them is Iverson's ability to get to the FT line.
     
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    Iverson was a better player. Period.

    This AB love is getting out of hand.
     
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    A hypothetical question, if Brooks was drafted no 1 overall in the draft this year and was immediately Houston's No 1 option, everything else being equal, do you think he would get to the line a lot more often?

    If Iverson was drafted in the second round, and didn't have all the "hype" surrounding him, would he get a lot of the foul calls he gets?
     
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    Iverson:
    - stronger, finishes better
    - uses his speed better
    - stole the ball more
    - just as turnover prone
    - a worse shooter, but has the ability to create better/more open looks
     
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    Practice?
     
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    Ability to finish at the rim/get to the foul line.
    "Thug" personality.
    "street" flashiness to his game
    Dearth of stars in the era
     
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    If Aaron Brook was as good as a flooper/Contact Creator as Iverson he will be an all star for sure.

    Iverson as many stars are very good are creating contact and selling it to the official. That why AI lived at the FT line, and it was so hard to defend because you couldn't get close to him or you get call for a foul.

    AB need to learn from Lowry, because AB get foul a lot but don't any calls, while Lowry get foul a lot less but get to FT line at a higher percentage.
     
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    /thread
     
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    their playstyle is just different. brooks doesnt hang in the air when he goes to the rim so theres less chance for him to be bumped, while iverson has flailed his body everywhere his entire career i guess the refs can call that easier.

    iverson still has a ton more offensive prowess than brooks because he made his living in the land of the giants (in the paint). brooks struggles to get his shot anywhere below the 3 point line.
     
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    Just look at their stats. It should become pretty clear.

    AB can become the better passer and a higher percentage shooter though.
     
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    AB is only developing right now. He is nowhere near AI's level. AI carried 76ers all the way to the Finals and was a scoring champion. AB is not given that opportunity nor will be in his year as Rockets IMO.
     
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    So if Aaron went to train in argentina for a year with scola and lowry, he would be just as good as iverson?
     
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    even with all the calls iverson got he still had amazing finishing ability and a decent midrange shot. brooks only finishes when he beats his man. if hes even slightly bumped he'll probably miss.

    iverson could get his shot off any where which is something not many guards can do.
     
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    Currently, Brooks doesn't disrupt the defense as much, he doesn't garner as much attention.

    There could be any number of reasons why this is the case but I won't bother discussing them.

    Seriously, he made it to the finals, with that team. I do not consider it a fluke to get to the NBA finals, under any circumstances.

    More importantly, Allen Iverson is as big an example as any that eying shooting percentages is not good enough in assessing offensive production, especially since he is in the midst of one of his least effective seasons while shooting his highest true shooting percentage ever.
     
    #20 pmac, Jan 14, 2010
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