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What is the concept of Rafer Alston?!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rofflesaurus, Nov 6, 2007.

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  1. Dreamshake

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    Exposed for what you cry and moan about through your earlier post.


    Stop being a Rafer Hater.

    Be a fan of anyone on the team.

    You are nothing more than a Steve Francis Hater.

    Must make you sick to know that you will defend the worst PG in the NBA starter wise just to get your "I hate Steve" rocks off.


    Rafer is a lifetime .375 shooter. Please show me how Steves lifetime of averaging...and Im going to guess before looking it up....430 is anywhere near "just as bad"

    Steve is a lifetime 6 assist 3 turnover a game guy for the most part. Show me how Rafer gives more scoring opportunities for his teammates, or sets them up for scores more often, yet amazingly is averaging 4 assists and 2 turnovers a game. Hmmmm, your logic is flawed.

    Have you not seen the stats that PROVE that the offense scores less, has less possesions, and has a much worse "hands rating" when Rafer is on the court then when he is off? Are you really trying to tout how Rafer runs the team. Wow, you are truely a blind "basketball fan".
     
  2. MaxwellsTemper

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    I'm all for Francis getting some minutes. But let's not inflate or exaggerate what he could potentially bring to the team. It isn't going to be night and day from what we are seeing from our current PG situation.
     
  3. Labyrinth Blues

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    Get real, I became a Rocket's fan because of Steve Francis. Steve averages those numbers using 40% of the teams possession, Rafer averages those numbers using 15% of the teams possessions, Rafer is also the leader at A:TO ratio.

    I'm a big Stevie fan. But I'm a bigger Houston Rockets fan. And a very logical basketball analyst, I coach a bloody college team.

    Do I think his the Francis from before? No

    Do I think his more talented then Rafer? BY FAR!

    Do I think he strengths is beneficial to this team? No

    Stevie at his best involves dominating the ball and averaging his 20+ 5+ 5+ a night. Now we all know between Stevie and T-Mac who we want dominating the ball.

    Does this make Stevie's strenghs irrelevant? Yes

    Is Stevie a better shooter then Rafer? Yeah, not better enough to compensate for his weakness in other areas, you might aswell start Luther Head if you just want a shooter.

    Do I think Rafer is the better option at PG as of now? I side with Adelman

    Should Stevie be given a chance? Definately.

    Do you take things way too personally? Yes.

    Bye

    _ Blues
     
  4. itony

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    rafer blew his chance to be a hero due to his unclutchness and overall inability to hit shots after the nice play by yao last night

    it should have atleast been mike james in there
     
  5. vci_guy2003

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    Rafer said to RA, if you take my minutes away, I will slash yo throat like back in NYC. Poor RA, held hostage by a little b****. :mad:
     
  6. morpheus133

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    Yep Mike James with 2-10 shooting was on fire :rolleyes:
     
  7. WNBA

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    To your surprise, James was on fire compared with Alston even at 2/10. He shot 3s at 50%. At that moment, I'd put James in over Alston to shoot those 3s.

    Rafer sucks.
     
  8. aamir

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    He played a good game yesterday, until his last three shots.
     
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    Even with Tracy out, sticking Rafer back in the PG spot (+11) saw us chew away at the point differential with much more organised and paced offense. There is however, absolutely no excuse for the ridiculous shooting.

    James was -12 in point differential in his spurt as the PG, shot 2-10, recorded 3 turnovers, no assists, no steals, no blocks, 2 boards and had his defensive duty run him over. He had a bad game, a much worser game then Rafer but he will not recieve the same amount of blame and hate Rafer got because it was not him that missed those crucial 3s and he is not the "Whipping boy of Houston" (Rafer).

    _ Blues
     
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    James was absolutely pathetic on the defensive end, losing his man constantly. He looks like he's off in dreamland out there.

    I am ready to give Stevie/Brooks a try. How many times we gonna run these guys out there before we realize something has to give here?
     
  11. Dreamshake

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    Great. Finally you want to use stats. Statistical proof to claim hooray for your lover boy Rafer.

    Now since you want to tout this one game in rafers favor. One where he still stunk up the joint. Please go look at what the team does with and with him off the court. Then come back use your same logic to discredit ever using Rafer again.

    You make it way too easy.
     
  12. DudeWah

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    wow your logic continues to baffle me
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    are all australians this feeble minded???
     
  13. WNBA

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    I know you hate me but I was talking about the last couple minutes of the game, not the big chunck of grinding time when James was 2/10. In the last couple of minutes, you put your good crazy shooters in the game. Had James took those threes, he might make one or two. Just my thinking. I blame the coach. I am not blaming Rafer for his miss simply because he just does not have to make them due to his limitations. Coach should have put him on the bench when the team needs threes to catch up.

    [​IMG]

    Again, not much better even Rafer is back to his normal Alston.


    If Mike James is back to normal, he can shoot. he is crazy. Adelman needs to control him.
     
  14. plutoblue11

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    Understanding the concept of Rafer Alston is like trying to figure out the concept of the Matrix, stupid people giving all their money to Televangelists who have been accused of mis-using church funds to by yachts and $25,000 commodes, being suspended from school (for 5-10 days) after doing whatever (you sorta get a 5-10 day vacation from a place you probably don't want to be at in first place), and... generally women.


    So I have no f**king idea.... ;) .
     
  15. porkslope

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    its as if there is no big money involved in the nba.
    its as if statistics aren't used by nba teams to make informed decisions.
    its as if nba coaches have no knowledge of basketball whatsoever.
    its as if nba scouts have no knowledge of players whatsoever.
    its as if nba organizations don't analyze themselves more than you.
    its as if rafer alston will start against the spurs.
     
  16. DudeWah

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    i think this is a conspiracy to get seattle a new team........
    rafer will continue to play horribly and log big minutes until all fans become infuriated and stop watching the rox
    then when there is no business les will be forced to sell the rox
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    ...... WHAT IS GOING ON
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    seriously RAFER SUCKS get it through your heads rockets management
     
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    Look at what I was replying to, I clearly used the stats from ONE game to show that in THAT game Rafer outplayed Mike despite shooting very poorly -> James playing very poorly as contrary to the post I was replying to.

    I will clearly not defend Rafer for his weakness and subpar games, the game in Memphis where he jacked up 3 bricks and a turnover made me sick to my stomach. By the way before you move on to a new discussion, finnish the one that you never replied me with.

    _ Blues
     
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    Yes I'm sure a Psych PHD graduate logic is inferior to that of yours.

    You said:

    TTHERE IS NO SHOOTING SLUMP FOR ALSTON.

    & I clearly gave you the example of a shooting slump and the shooting slumps of our other role players. How does that logic baffle you? Do you have a problem understanding simple mathematics?

    And wow using Racial remarks is seriously going to impress me.

    _ Blues
     
  19. Labyrinth Blues

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    I don't hate you, your posts at have some reasoning, unlike Hamza which is just full of sh*t. Rafer will never shoot an elite %. The issue isn't with Rafer it's with the availability of a player to replace him with. Mike James and Luther clearly have shown they cannot run the offense smoothly and Francis is still a question mark. That said I clearly would like him to be given a go just as much. I only defend Rafer for what he is wrongly accused of and the unnessary harrasment he gets, not for his obvious problems like shooting. I just think that when his shooing does go back to normal, it wont be AS bad, but yes it will still be pretty bad, but at least RA think its acceptable. Right now though, it's pretty freaking bad, just like all the other role player son the team. Thread: Why are we not making shots for further discussion

    _ Blues
     
  20. DudeWah

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    yeah last time I checked Australian wasn't a race :)
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    because rafer always shoots this way thats why he isnt in a slump
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    as for his other duties.... is handing the ball to T-mac and standing around at the three point line so you can brick a three a difficult task?
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    I think not
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    btw whos trying to impress you
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    again im not trying to be rude.... but i just dont see how people can defend rafer
     

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